“Trump cared only about one thing: himself" - Bill Barr

Lol...we see none of it in this diarrhea of tinfoil blogger brainfarts gleaned from far right media.
You should get some fresh material.

 

I see you are incapable of a civil discussion or refuting any of the specific points I made. I am therefore putting you on my ignore list. I am here to have serious discussion with people of different beliefs not to fling sh*t back and forth.

 

So again you’re claiming obamacare made people fat? Which you’ll now deny and claim you’re only saying sicker, so again I’ll ask for a source and again you’ll go back to obesity.

 

I just think every president we get is worse than the one before. The political discourse is so vile that it's impossible to have a rational discussion anymore. I remember when the Ds and Rs in Congress weren't spending their days trying to think of ways to divide the people on minor issues, so we would lose focus on what's important; mostly their stealing wealth and power from the American people.

Obama was a divisive person; for reasons I don't totally understand. Trump threw gasoline on the divisiveness, and Joe never had a chance.

Perhaps, one day, probably not in my lifetime, both parties will decide that this madness is what's going to destroy the country, and put qualified, educated, well-balanced, well-spoken, talented, creative people on the ticket. Someone who is a natural leader would be great! Then we can have a discussion about the things we have in common and vote on that, rather than, "nu uh - my guy is evil, but your guy is more evil."

When did evil become an acceptable personality trait for a POTUS?

 

exactly!!! And, what is even more laughable is Trump was what he's always been. He has never lied about who or what he is. The issue was that he beat Hillary and they wanted to compare Trump and his behavior, a successful businessman who met large payrolls, to that of incompetent, taxpayer funded politicians.

 

I pointed out that Americans are fatter and sicker than ever in spite of record consumption of pharma products. Most pharm products do not make people obese, but they do mask symptoms so that the patient can continue their unhealthy habits.

1/3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic.
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/prediabetes-1-in-3.html

Are these people diabetic because they aren't getting enough pharma products?

Trends show an overall increase in chronic diseases.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...ext=Trends show an overall increase,16,17,18].

 

Your statements have zero foundation! He didn't get re-elected because American's are soft and don't want to hear the truth. No mean tweets - wah....

 

And Biden has failed this country more in one year than Trump in four years. His approval ratings demonstrate the facts of my statement.

Biden is an evil self serving SOB that cares nothing for the people and never has.

 

Big claims. Mediocre ad hom.

No evidence.

 

He was a good AG.

 

It appears that you misunderstand the man-child. People are NOT drawn to him. He draws people to him because he's a master con artist. It's all smoke and mirrors and the people that think all those wonderful things about him don't recognize it's not of their own volition.

Examples:

Some of the Capitol rioters didn't vote in the 2020 Presidential election. Some weren't even registered to vote.

Some of the donors that he was forced to refused were on limited incomes when he took unauthorized funds from their bank accounts. Some couldn't pay their bills or get their meds and he had his staff ignore their complaints until a judge forced the refunds.

Putin is not American or democratic but there are Americans right now, including Trump, that side with him over their own POTUS and government.

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So, ask yourself...(I don't need the answer):

1. Have you ever contemplated physically hurting somebody without *any* regard toward the validity of why a person would put that request before you? [At the time Trump told them that he would walk with them to the Capitol, he was fully aware that Pence didn't have the power to veto or overturn any of the states' counts and nobody that went there ever questioned that].

2. If you were on a fixed income, had mounting medical costs and several prescriptions, would you choose to miss some meals, take out a loan or borrow money from a family member just for the sole purpose of giving a self-proclaimed BILLIONAIRE money?

3. Can you recall any time in your life that American citizens were this angry, hostile and hateful toward one another over *any* political position or politician?

Personal frame of reference: Both my parents and my former in-laws and my ex and I all canceled out the other's vote and NONE of us have ever had an argument or disagreement about politics with our respective spouses.


The first gut reaction will be that this is incorrect and it is supposed to feel that way. That's why masters at conning people get away with it. They are able to convince their marks (their targets for whatever scam they are pulling) that all of their beliefs and actions are their own. It's kind of like those magicians that do the tricks with playing cards and/or marbles under a cup. It happens right there in front of us and we still can't figure it out. That's what Trump does but there are no tangible objects to distract the eyes. He does it all with his body language and words.

 

How is anyone a danger to "us, our way of life and our Constitution?" You've got the buffoon of a president in the WH, you've got a Democratic House. There's been no such attempts on our capitol beyond 1/6, the fervent wet dreams of the Democratic Party. The time to exploit a crisis, has long past the party. The question now is: Has governing been any better? The answer is a staunch no, and that's why this thread exists. Another "look a squirrel moment".

We don't care about the squirrel, our eyes are focused on that buffoon who hopefully will lose in 2024 or at least we all know he'll be gone by 2028. That is following our constitution and our way of life.

 

He did (generously) okay for someone who supports an all-powerful executive branch, and now he's making up for some of his mistakes.

 

He defended Trump with stout determination.

Outside of that, he didn't do squat.

 

Check the polls that liberals loved for four years when Trump's numbers were low, but hate now that Biden's numbers are in the toilet. That's evidence.

 

No, evidence is records of what he did.

Barr made Republicans happy with his defense of Trump's illegal activities.

Barr thought he was Trump's personal defense lawyer, not the AG.

 

It is interesting that everything you share has nothing to do with my point. American's are sick and tired of politicians. Trump's platform for 2016 was to drain the swamp. And the swamp is all of the career politicians that have made millions by selling their positions, their votes, and their souls.

Now most liberals will read this and tell me how Trump is all of those things. I am not here to argue anyone's position on that. But please open your eyes to Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, etc. If you say any of them are good people, let alone good politicians while calling Trump scum, then you are totally fooling yourself.

The other interesting fact is, and one that nobody ever understands, I cannot stand Donald Trump. Ready for him to leave all conversation.

 

Do you not recall that we've already had this conversation?

 

You must not despair.

You'll end up making the stupid democrats swallow your truth.

 

My post was in direct response to you trying to differentiate X (everybody but Trump) and Trump and they are all scoundrels.

Again, I'm not partisan and the only reason Biden and Pelosi are one split hair *above* Trump is that Trump is insane. For me, it is indefensible for him to do nothing to help the Capitol police officers that were brutally attacked by that angry mob, ignore our terrified elected officials pleading with him to get backup, outright refusal to have his staff cooperate with transition teams (that was NOT in our country's best interests) and has spewed his bile every chance he can get.

I get that he wanted to be re-elected. Nobody likes being fired. But, for every other person employed with a contract in US jurisdiction, the law is at-will. This means the employee and/or the employer can choose to terminate the relationship at any time. Trump could have put our country before his ego and helped our President-elect make a smooth and comprehensive transition and **still** bitched and moan in the World's Longest Pity Party ever. His not doing that is exactly why those of us that can acknowledge that are concerned about the ones that can't.

 

Trump WAS the swamp. You can claim what YOU happen to think the "people" wanted, but you can NOT claim that Trump had ANY intent to "drain the swamp". Trump used his position for his own personal benefit.

Even Barr is pointing out that he cared for nothing other than himself.

And, you aren't giving any justification for your hate for Biden, Pelosi or anyone else. They are fighting for democracy as Republicans are going to white pride conferences. They are working toward investment in our infrastructure as Republicans create disasters such as Texas in the winter, dangerous bridges and slow internet that isn't even available to all Americans - internet that our business depends on.

 

Naïve much!? Your statements about the comparison of politicians are downright laughable at best and tragic at worst that you might truly believe any politician is fighting for the people.

Even funnier. Republicans created winter in Texas and dangerous bridges and slow internet. Didn't the Democrats control all of congress and the White House under Obama for a couple years? These weren't problems back then? What exactly did the Democrats do with that time for these issues? N O T H I N G ! This is why America does not hand the keys to both branches to the Democrats very often. Because they wholly squander the opportunities and fail the people over and over again!

 

Well, I did not think I would see Americans hating fellow Americans to the levels reached today based solely on political leanings < this is the result of being radicalized. The R party has moved to the extreme, the D party has a much larger better represented extreme faction than before. Most Americans are closer to the middle of the political spectrum but the extremes are pushing hard and LOUD.

People simply can't lose sight of what the constitution, democracy and freedom provides them and that it has to be applied to all for it to continue working.

On the same note, the 24hr media (social media included) does focus and provide drama all day long to keep the dollars rolling in but people have to be conscious of this when watching the 24hr 'news' cycles and social media.

 

just my take, if everything was hunky dory in this country it may be appropriate to carry on with these Trump investigations, but everything sucks as evidenced by Biden's approval ratings. My advice, time to take Trump off the front burner and tackle the problems of Americans, not Trump. Inflation of food prices, gas prices, and shelter are their overwhelming concerns, not more Trump investigations. So far, you're 0 for 3 with those (impeachments/ NY) and it doesn't appear Garland has the appetite to prosecute someone shown (video) to have told the protesters to protest peaceably. But hey, we'll find out in November, maybe I'm wrong

 

Rebuttal:
1. Much of what you mentioned was not controlled by POTUS. Most economic and even societal issues have a delay factor, in that, the effects aren't felt for some time. I also remember the issues of the late 70's, but what I don't remember is that most people blamed Carter for it as they do now.
Carter wasn't a "great" president, I only stated that he wasn't as bad as many would have you believe. The Iranian hostage crisis was not entirely Carter's fault either. He was a pacifist, and our enemies may have sought to take advantage of that. Carter did order the armed rescue of them, but it wasn't his fault the military forgot to put the sand filters on the helicopters. It's amazing what people expect the president or even government to do. Sometimes, if it fits the "argument", the government should fix everything. Other times, the government should stay out of their lives.
I'll use the pandemic and inflation as an example: the government shouldn't make any mandates about masks for the greater good of society because that is overreach, but if prices start getting inflated, the government should fix that. It doesn't make sense to me, but everyone has an opinion.
2. Critical thinking usually involves factual information, and you only provided anecdotal and assumptions. Need I say more?
Btw, if your criterion is being made fun of on SNL, what does that say about Trump?