“Whites Steal African Resources!”

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  1. Brewskier

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    After participating in a thread that discusses a recent Pew research poll that shows how 2/3rds of sub-Saharan Africa’s 1.1 billion people want to move to the US and Europe, I encountered several people making the typical left wing argument about colonialism in Africa. The argument is, essentially, that without Europeans “stealing resources from Africa” the continent could have used those resources and become wealthy themselves.

    I’ll ignore the history of the continent that shows how those people didn’t even realize they had those resources (or didn’t know what to do with them) and just assume this is true.

    OK. So why do you, as someone who believes in this idea, support immigration from these areas of highly educated Africans? Because that’s another argument made by the left... that the West should get the best and brightest people around the world to make our countries stronger. Isn’t this also a stealing of their natural resources? Brain drain? Shouldn’t you wish for those people to stay at home making their countries better, so that so many people in those countries can have a better life, and not have to escape to Europe and the US?
     
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    The aim of the left is to destroy Europe and they use culprit as a weapon to achieve that aim.
     
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    That is the only explanation that makes sense to me. They want to use demographics to alter the trajectory of the Western world for their own personal benefit. How else can they support robbing these 3rd world countries of their best and brightest minds and talent? Those countries really, really need it. Much more than we do.
     
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    Hmm, interesting perspective. It is a little bit of a double standard, in a way.

    Obviously if all the talented and educated ones leave, those countries won't improve. So opening up our doors to "the best and brightest" may turn out to be a little counterproductive if we're trying to give all those other people better lives, so they don't have to get up and move 2000 miles away to another country.
     
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    The US didn't colonize Africa, so I'm unclear as to why we are included among the "whites" who did. I thought there was no such thing as race?
     
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    Its actually the Africans who colonized Europe.

    If we want to be historically accurate.
     
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    I'm not trying to be rude. I thought they didn't have the technology after Egypt and.......I think it was Ethiopia that they traded with. What happened and why didn't they find a way to come out of it?

    If we had the work for them, I'd be proud to have them, rich and educated, or poor. I worked with a woman and a man from Africa. They were both good folk. Neither was wealthy. I also worked with a woman from northern Africa, who was escaping oppression and some other horrible stuff I don't want to spread. She wasn't wealthy either. I'd sooner have them than folks who can't assimilate and don't want to.

    Now, they did wear as much of their traditional clothing as they could, to work, after all. The woman from Africa wore those lip plates, and no shirt or bra, but had some clay necklaces around her neck................

    no sir.......I'm teasing about that topless, lip thing and necklace. bahahaha The one woman from Africa did wear something on her head that was colorful and pretty, as well as somewhat more traditional. That's all she could do at work. Nice folks... I'd work with them any time.
     
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    Liberia?
     
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    I don't give a **** about the concepts of ethnicity or nationalism so the only question worth answering here to me is "should people be able to walk over arbitrary imaginary lines without getting shot by some ****ing fascist pig with a badge" and the answer is yes
     
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    Do those lines include the fence to a military base, the screening entrance to a court house? A golf course at a private country club? How is that really so different?

    Would you open up the doors to everyone in the rest of the world?
    Do you know what would happen? That's just insanity or ignorance speaking, on your part.

    GoogleMurrayBookchin, I respect your opinions on this site, if not always agreeing, but what you are saying here is just completely going off the deep end.
     
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    take a guess what i, an anarchist, think about military bases
     
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    I take it if you had it your way there would be no gated communities.

    It would be interesting to see how Democrat politicians would respond to that, if there was a law banning gated communities. (Make sure you ban the security fences surrounding their homes too)
     
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    Does this apply to that arbitrary line called your front door?
     
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    And what of the arbitrary line between your sphincter and the interior of your rectum?
     
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    Good thing the neoliberals are always in control "either" way.
     
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    The border control for that one is me and the passport is being really attractive
     
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    That wasn't a colony of the United States. That was a private association.
     
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    “The American Colonization Society”
     
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    Anyone that doesn't believe American companies and their representatives haven't been exploiting African natural resources, wherever on the continent they may exist, as well as most European nations and as China is also doing is either lying or ignorant.
     
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    The right is destroying the west more than ever.
     
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    Obviously the answer is NO, and that's just how you want it.
     
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    Both left and right winged seems to be happy at destroying western culture, especially european culture.

    That's an old topic, I don't like what many western governments and big companies does in Africa. However it's not "the white", even by excluding the fact that chinese, south korean and japanese, arabs are using african ressources aswell.
     
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    The assumption that liberals recognize immigrants as being exceptional is false. They are at heart racists. They imagine immigrants as babies; unfortunate little people that require the protection of superior people.

    That's why people against immigration are called racists, because that's how they see immigrants. Being against immigration is like being against babies and incompetent people that can't help themselves.
     
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    The best and brightest there want to come here because their governments, where they exist at all make poverty the only choice.
     
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    Of Black Anericans
     
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