“Why are you wasting my time with things that don’t matter?”

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Dec 6, 2023.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    As if booing both the villain and the hero in a melodrama gives you any sort of moral high ground.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Both sides like to play propaganda and spin games, but which side is in court where facts matter? It's the right that's deluded on Trump. They want to believe he's the victim because he's helped them score some policy wins and own the libs, but he's a corrupt and depraved person who is a threat to our system of government to the extent that any single person can be.
     
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    It's tough to back up a claim that she lusts for power when her stance on Trump got her kicked out and then lost her seat in the election. If you are thinking that her considering a third party run you must know that this will not result in her getting any power.
     
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    Shows I'm not a blind follower like you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense. I would cheerfully vote for Desantis if he is still in the game when my state has its usually inconsequential primary. But in the end if neither of them dies it will be Trump vs Biden 2 and I look forward to the day after Trump is sworn in to him sending almost every body he legally can in the administrative state to the unemployment line and reversing every last Biden EO
     
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    Her power like daddy's is tied to the Neocons not the party's base. Trump accomplished what he accomplished in 2016 because Republicans finally got a non neocon to vote for. Of the last two standing in 2016 neither was a Neocon,
     
  7. conservaliberal

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    The truly amazing thing, Derideo, is how thoroughly you misread and misunderstood everything I was trying, sincerely, to say to you -- without malice, and without antagonism. Ignore the lessons of history then, if you wish. You on the Left love to bring up 'Godwin' all the time as though he's somehow axiomatic in all comparisons to a rise of despotism. Instead, I'd suggest you reflect deeply on the council of George Santayana:

    [​IMG]. [​IMG]."Naw, that's bullshit!"
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Puerile PROJECTION noted yet again.

    It is the MAGA and Xtofascists who are WILFULLY and NEFARIOUSLY in the PROCESS of REPEATING the MISTAKES of HISTORY.

    That YOU are the one TURNING a BLIND EYE to their CRIMES says all we need to know.

    Who do YOU support in 2024?

    Who will you VOTE for in 2024?
     
  9. conservaliberal

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    The only reason I will reply now is, hopefully, to give you insight into the thinking of many of us in the unaffiliated Independent ranks. I'll keep it brief and simple:

    1. We don't want one more minute of Joe Biden or his 'woke' thought-police handlers!
    2. We don't want 'patron-saint-of-the-stock-markets' Donald Trump, either! :eyepopping:
    3. We've grown sick of the radical, America-hating, race-bating, hypocrites of the 'woke' Democrat Party!
    4. We've grown sick of the go-along-get-along, stockmarket gambling RINO's, who forget completely about the taxpaying middle-class, and no longer stand up for anything that really did "make America great".
    5. We've grown sick of an unconstitutional "central bank" (the "Fed") which has hijacked everything of any real importance in the economy of the United States since 2007!
    6. We've grown sick of anyone trying to 're-imagine' the Constitution of the United States instead of complying with every single word of it -- exactly as written and legally amended!
    7. We've grown sick of constantly being told what we should like or dislike, who we should associate with, what we must accept as being "good" or "normal" when this conflicts with our freely-held core beliefs, and, we're also sick of being lectured about which religion is "right" or "wrong".

    Now then, what is it that many of us "Independents" want? The polar-opposite of all the crap enumerated above! Figure it out, Derideo, or just on convincing yourself that anyone who doesn't think like you do is a Trump-worshipping, racist Nazi. What we need is an impossible synthesis of John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, as I've said many times before, but, sadly that isn't (ISN'T) going to happen....
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for CLARIFYING that you have ZERO problems with 2025 MANIFESTO in accordance with the Xtofascist Agenda that I EXPOSED as a THREAT to our nation back in post #THREE above.
     
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    The extremists are in both parties and they are getting increasingly larger shares of power. The two extremist elements in both parties are feeding off each other in a positive feedback loop, causing voters to elect more and more extreme morons until we will have pissed away everything good about this country in an attempt to spite the other half.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You appear to be a little more thoughtful than some on the board. I wonder if you could elaborate a bit on what you mean by #1. Specifically about the thought police handlers. For instance, who are they?
     
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    You want to see where the extremists are go to the places where everything is coming apart at the seams. Try New York bodega owners are arming themselves because they are tired of being robbed constantly. And the city won't charge property crimes or even armed robbery. Crime is not down just because the DA won't charge anyone for much of anything. What will likely happen in the next few months in New York is that where the cops cannot or will not do their jobs the citizenry eventually will do it for them. And dead thugs will appear hanging from light posts, with signs labeling their crimes with the words addressed to their fellows to go else where if they don't want to die. Why because that is what always happens.

    The right aren't the ones trying to silence the competition. Twitter doesn't fact check every damn post including obvious jokes. Facebook does. Biden is still trying to set up a government fact checking department read censorship regime. And you thing the people trying to resist this totalitarian crap are the extremists?
     
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    :roflol:
    Thanks for CLARIFYING your "clarity". You and your faction are quite "clear" to many of us in the ranks of the unaffiliated Independents. You will probably win the election in 2024 by shoveling out unearned welfare programs with abundant benefits and even more "subsidies" (as usual). Republicans won't even CARE, so long as their almighty-god stock market maintains or increases stupidly-overrated, insanely-inflated "values"! 8)

    The rich get richer; the poor get poorer. And, tragically, we who are unaffiliated Independents are the most pathetic of all, because we don't even have candidates anywhere who can win ANYTHING. You guys on the radical-Left and your counterparts in the radical-Right have much in common, even though you refuse to see it -- much like the old German Communists and the Brown-shirt Nazis I keep talking about during the Weimar Republic... but don't worry, I won't bother you with any more of that for a while....

    You Leftists will probably end-up running that puddle-of-puke, Gavin Newsom, along with whatever the Democrat 'wokesters' dredge up to replace the laughably ridiculous Kamala-la-la. Let me be the first to offer you congratulations, although others will be offering theirs -- soon!

    [​IMG]. "Here's to Gavin Newsom... the last American president...." :frustrated:
     
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    Who are Biden's 'thought police' handlers? They are legion, and they fill the ranks, high and low throughout Biden's regime. They are everything from Cabinet officers, their departments, assistants, under-assistants, and so on down through the entire bureaucracy. They are 'soothsayers' like Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett, and, they're thick as fleas in the DOJ, and throughout federal judiciaries in all fifty states. Their political confederates own the Senate, control the mass-media "news" and propaganda organs, along with controlling the majority of all political dialogue and comportment in this country's colleges and universities. (Hint: do you know who Professor Brittney Cooper is?)

    OK, next, you'll say you want to see a list with more names, after which I come up with some of the more glaringly obvious examples. Then, you'll say you want to see what proof I have that they project the power of 'thought police', after which I invite you to look at nearly every applicable aspect of life in this country ever since the downfall of Conservatism during Idiot "W" Bush's presidency and Obama's eight years. Your next move is to reject that explanation as being vague and imprecise, after which I provide several key examples -- all of which you reject out of hand. Thanks, but no thanks... 'been there, done that'.

    Today's liberal Leftists remind me of Nero during the famous fires that destroyed 71% of Rome. Legend says that he completely ignored reports of the ongoing catastrophe while relaxing at one of his country estates, and that he neither really knew nor cared what was happening. Afterward, when the '**** hit the fan', he simply blamed the whole thing on the city's Christians, and then went happily on his oblivious, self-absorbed way.

    [​IMG]."Hey, it's all CONSERVATIVES' fault!":party:
     
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  16. Derideo_Te

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    Pretence of NON-PARTISAN affiliation EXPOSED by Right WING biased content above duly noted.

    Your FAILURE to CONDEMN the Xtofascist controlled GOP 2025 Manifesto is also noted.

    Now that we BOTH know EXACTLY where you stand politically thanks to your screed above and post #65 it is clear that your CLAIM to being a non-partisan Independent doesn't withstand scrutiny.

    The amusing part is that you are far from being the first to try and pull this stunt but NONE of you can ever take that final step which is a no-brainer for GENUINE Independents and GENUINE old school Conservatives ALIKE.

    Have a nice day.
     
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