“You are all unbelievers, I’ll kill you” – Two Islamist knife attacks in France

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Muslims are killing innocents all over the world, as well as each other. That was mentioned in my post.
    Yes, I know. There are bad people in the world and people often murder each other. However it's only Muslims who are committing terrorism while following a book which encourages these killings.
    Don't know why Jews are being mentioned any more than Christians, Hindus or Atheists should be mentioned. What's your point? The subject is Islamists and the terror they create.
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you see any commonality between these religious terrorist fanatics? Any religious connections at all? Or has it become the religion that dares not speak its name?
     
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    they all believe in the Abrahamic God? they seem to be the biggest offenders... and right now the Muslims Fanatics seem to be the king of the hill, with some Christians and some Jews still committing some religious violence yet
     
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    LOL you never read the bible as far as a book that promote killings!!!!!!

    Just for the fun of it download a electronic version of the bible and do a search on the word kill and then try to tell me that Muslims are the only one who have a religion book that deal with killings and murders in the name of a god.

    Footnote as far as the so called golden rule check out how after Moses came down from the mountain top the first time with the ten commandments an found his people misbehaving he broke the tablets an order his personal followers to kill among his people until their arms was too tired to wheel a sword any longer.

    Reading such hateful nonsense at around age ten turn me into an atheist.
     
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    the bible talks of killing infidels too

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

    2 Chronicles 15:13

    King James Version (KJV)

    13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Muslim fanatics are the 'king of the hill'?

    Billions of people all over the world believe in a God of some sort but none in the modern world are encouraging their fellow believers into murdering others. People will kill for political purposes also and Islam manages to combine the worst of both worlds.
     
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    Christians been there done that.... convert or kill was a Christians theme too

    the point is, you can't blame all Muslims or all Christians for the actions of the religious fanatics
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't matter what the Bible says. That's not the topic of this thread.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So have many other religions, but that's not the topic of this thread. Are Leftists born stupid or is acquired somewhere?
     
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    yes, so have atheists killed thiests, I am not disputing that... religious fanatics can be a scary bunch when they think you need to believe like them or die cause the other side is evil

    religious fanatics are the problem, not the religion... I wont call you stupid for not seeing that
     
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    LOL killings in the name of some god is a human constant and only the groups doing the most killings at any given time is in a state of flux.

    Given history Islam is a far more peaceful religion then Christianity on the whole over time.
     
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    Religious fanatics and political fanatics are much the same. But citing religion persecution from the past in the contemporary world is a deliberate attempt to avoid a discussion on Islam and what the world faces today.

    Islam is a crap religion, probably the worst in world history, and those poor people who suffer under it, unable to live their lives in freedom, are the victims. The democracies should not be made victims either.
     
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    We don't live 1000 years ago. We live in the world of today and must therefore deal with the problems of today.

    There's likely a history section somewhere on this board, and a religious section, but the idea here is to deal with the topic under discussion. Can you do that?
     
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    it's good to learn from the past.... how did we resolve the Christian violence against infidels?

    the truth is, time..... time for much of the religious fanatics to die off or be killed... sad but true - a new generation takes over and things change..... sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse

    there is over 1 billion Muslims and over 1 billion Christians, a religious war is not the answer

    both Christians and Muslims believe in the exact same God...
     
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    When the Christian missionaries came,
    They had the Bible, we had the land
    When they left, we had the Bible
    They had the land.
     
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    so spot on - wash, rinse, repeat

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    So anything that does not support your position that Islam as a religion is more hateful and more dangerous then the others major religions of the world is off topic?

    Suggest you would find a home on the Fox network with your ability to point away from the facts.
     
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    Then what solution do you propose to eliminate, or even control, the Islamic violence today? What lessons from the past will guide your advice in our modern world? How much time should we have given the Nazis and Fascists?

    Perhaps your message should be directed to Muslims rather than other groups.
     
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    yes and like when Christians were killing Jews in Germany, or Indians in America... what did we do - what works and what doesn't

    attacking all Christians would not of worked then anymore then attacking all Muslims works now
     
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    What nonsense.
     
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    You tend to live in the past a great deal which is probably why you have no suggestions or understanding for the present.
     
  22. Fred C Dobbs

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    Hell, man, can you not read the topic under discussion? If it's a medical problem just say so and I'll understand.
     
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    what works and what doesn't, we look to the past for answers..... seeing how we address Christian religious fanatics of the past can help with addressing Muslim religious fanatics of the present

    Muslims and Christians are the biggest religions by far, a religious war between the two groups is not the answer

    so Fred, what is your suggestions? you could pray if you think your God would listen... oh wait, the Christian God is the same God the Muslims pray to
     
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    correction:


    what TRUTH
     
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    There will be another world war and it will be between islam and non islam....
     

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