09/11 truthers, i would like to get in your heads

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  1. danrush1966

    danrush1966 New Member

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    Just one point about these 9/11 truther dumb asses....none of them have any understanding of the construction of the WTC's or the Pentagon, I keep hearing these idiots say the same old garbage...

    "No steel building ever made has collapsed from fire."

    The WTC's were not your typical steel buildings, in fact if you had solid balsa wood towers with the same shapes as the WTC's, the balsa wood has more tensile strength per square foot than a 110 story steel tower. Most of the WTC's space.....was air.

    Air can't stop a fully loaded 757 crashing into it at max thrust.

    The buildings did stand long enough to allow thousands to escape with their lives, in that respect the design did its intended purpose well.

    I have worked in Non-Destructive Inspection for the private and military sectors for 30 years now and I know full well that once you heat steel beyond its material lattice ability to support weight....it will fail. You don't need to achieve melting point to make steel fail.

    The difference between those who know the truth and the conspiracy drunk idiots of the world is through experiance, knowledge and not being an America hating, lefty, emotional drunk ass.
     
  2. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    They have no life. They are failures. Same ereason Chucklenuts Jones and Harrit are pushing their idiotic analysis of the paint chips.


    Jones is trying to live down his cold fusion fizzle and the stupidity of his "Behold My Hands" papeI don't know for sure what Harrit's problem is. Maybe he thinks he was supposed to have proven something earth-shaking in one of his sort of academic papers and got laughed at.

    Whatever the case, they are failures.
     
  3. Chad2

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    I will try to answer your questions, by telling you whats going on.

    Lots of crazy stuff happened around the twin towers just before, and on Sept 11. Many onlookers on the street said they saw military aircraft hit the towers. Police and firefighters heard strange explosions before some buildings fell down. Conflict of interest owned contractors were in some of the buildings, at unusual times just before Sept 11. ex.ex.ex.

    But I have not seen 100% positive evidence to prove accusations, related to the above things.
    But still there is lots more (crazy) stuff going on.


    I learned all the following things from a netflix Sept 11 documentary. But I don't know if that documentaries statements can be trusted.
    All these things may be true, but maybe (all) these are not true, but at this moment I say at least 1/4 of them are true.


    The hijacker's were let into America by political favors. The papers they filled out to enter America, had so many errors on them (they were actually illegal.)

    Some of the hijackers were not typical Arab Muslim's. They loved strip clubs, hookers, and cocaine. ex.ex.

    Before Sept 11 American citizens reported the hijackers "as dangerous Muslim terrorists" to places like the FBI, and these complaints were 100% ignored.

    Some of the terrorist leaders of the Sept 11 terrorist group, were said to be on the airplanes (and they were not.)

    On Sept 11, all US military attack aircraft were unavailable to stop Sept 11. Our attack aircraft were too busy practicing drills "to stop commercial aircraft from being hijacked and flown into buildings." (While our government said they had no idea that something like Sept 11 was even possible.)

    When GW Bush was told about Sept 11 he was with school children (people say he stayed silent to long, but I may have done the same thing.) But then GW Bush was flown to strange places. ex.ex.

    (And this documentary stated many, many more suspicious and strange things, that happened near or on Sept 11.)


    On a personal note I believe GW Bush is an idiot, but I believe in some ways he is a good person. I personally believe that GW Bush himself, would not take part in (any) military or terrorist attack on America.


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    The following is 100% factual.

    The real thing to focus on is Iraq.
    The invasion of Iraq was the desired goal, in any possible thing done by the US government involving Sept 11.

    Dick Cheney, Condaliza Rice, and Donald Rumsfeld, and 12 other members of the Bush White House, were all members of a corporate think tank called "The Project for a New American Century."

    This think tank is funded by oil and weapons corporations. This think tank has wanted to invade Iraq for many years before Sept 11 even happened. I have seen letters signed by D. Cheney and D. Rumsfeld, titled like "Why we should bomb Iraq now" , "Why Saddam has to be removed from power" ex.ex. This think tanks members have been begging everyone in Washington, to invade Iraq many, many, many years before Sept 11 even happened.

    This think tank wanted to Invade Iraq because all corporations involved, would receive huge profits from invading Iraq.
    Saddam H. was also getting ready to (stop) trading oil in US dollars, this would greatly upset many of the corporations in this think tank.

    Sept 11 provided the "Project for a New American Century's" members in the Bush White house an excuse to invade Iraq.
    Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11. Saddam H. actually had orders out to kill Al Qaeda, because he feared Al Qaeda taking his power.

    After Sept 11 D. Cheney and D. Rumsfeld created a special office in the CIA or FBI. They went through old "paid for" intelligence, that was already found to be untrue, false, and not real. All of the things Cheney and the Bush White House said about Iraq, were already proven to be un-true by CIA or FBI specialists.

    The Bush White House told 935 documented lies about Iraq, to get America to invade Iraq.
    http://www.alternet.org/story/74715/study:_bushies_lied_935_times_to_sell_iraq_invasion


    The following documentary is where I learned about the "Project for a New American Century." It is filled with high ranking US military
    officials and other experts. This documentary speaks of things not said in this post. (It's a factual, outstanding, and well made documentary.)

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-oil-factor/

    Its so interesting how Dick Cheney was Haliburtons past CEO, and Haliburton made him very rich. Then Cheney gave Haliburton no-bid government contracts in Iraq, causing Haliburtons profits to go up 700% because of the Iraq war. And the other corporations in the "Project for a New American Century" also had incredible profits from the Iraq invasion.


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    (The Following information is in (no) way factual, true, correct, or real.)



    I believe the following would be the most likely conspiracy theories to be possible.

    I AM IN (NO) WAY SAYING THE FOLLOWING THEORIES ARE REAL, TRUE, OR CORRECT.


    The Sept 11 terrorist's who loved strip clubs, hookers, and cocaine, were not on the airplanes. They were actually "Project for a New American Century" paid workers. They were murderous evil Muslim's, and US government paid informants. They were paid by think tank workers trying to start the Iraq war, they were paid to make sure the attack happened. (But perhaps they were just upper level Al Qaeda leaders, and they are as corrupt as old European priests, and as ironic as the Pope.)

    Agencies like the CIA and FBI have huge intelligence gathering operations around the world. They simply offer money for information, and pay money for it (and they get intelligence.) Members of our government who are members of the "Project for a New American century" knew about the hijackers plans before they came to America. Political favors were used to get their paperwork accepted so they could come to America.

    Did members of the "Project for a New American Century" have a strategy, for a terrorist event to happen to give them the chance to invade Iraq?

    I AM IN (NO) WAY SAYING THE ABOVE THEORIES ARE TRUE. (If I had to bet I would say they are "false.")


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    (The rest of this post is 100% factual.)


    The "Project for a New American Century" has written in letters (before Sept 11), saying that the chances of the US invading Iraq were (not) likely, unless there was some event like Pearl Harbor. And Sept 11 was like Pearl Harbor.

    But regardless Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld should be in prison. 100,000 innocent Iraqis were killed by their Iraq war, and 1000's of US soldiers were killed and paralyzed by their war. The Iraq war was not about Sept 11, it was about the "Project for a New American Century."
     
  4. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Begin, Sharon and several other terrorists are highly celebrated in Israel...If that cesspool lasts long enough, I'm sure they will get national holidays commemerating their sneaky, gutless, murderous actions....Cheers
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Steven Jones:

    PhD in physics and headed the science department at a major US University for over a decade...

    Neils Harret:

    Ph.D. Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, 1975, Thesis: mechanistic photochemistry
    Post Doctorate, Columbia University, New York, 1977
    Master of Science, Chemistry, Max-Planck-Institute for Strahlenchemi, Mulheim an der Ruhr, Germany.....

    But according to a faceless internet blowhard apparently operating out of his basement they are Failures who have no lives and both are "chucklenuts"....Priceless!!! Thanks for the laughs, champ...You're always good for a chuckle.

    BTW: What scientific degrees, if any do you hold?
     
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    Sigh..you're clueless
     
  7. leftysergeant

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    You don't need a science degree to tell the difference between paint and thermite.

    There is also the fact that Chucklenuts is a superstitious twit who sucks at historical research, but is sure he has proven that Jesus Christ visited Yucatan and is rememberedc as Itzamna.

    What a total yutz.
     
  8. allegoricalfact

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    What we saw was the controlled demo of empty buildings and pure Hollywood superimposed on top of the filming of said straight forward controlled demos...................
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    Utter twaddle. One would have to be mentally ill to believe that.

    That does not keep the Nazis and anarcho-nihilists from trying to sell their crap to us.
     
  10. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    Anyone with the right soft ware can prove it. There really is no doubt. The buildings were empty, they came down in controlled demolitions and all the rest was as any action Hollywood film now in the days of the digital 'toys'.
     
  11. Hannibal

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    So prove it. Show your evidence.

    'Fraud already believes you. Now convince someone else.
     
  12. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    I don't need to prove it. If anyone wants to know they can so easily find out for themselves, they have the whole of the internet and there is soft ware enough to buy as they are able or willing to do.

    Anyway this section is supposedly for people who want to discuss and explore other possibilities, you and your cliche, it is obvious, don't have any interest in other points of view so what are you all doing here bullying and blocking free conversation ?
     
  13. Hannibal

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    Who's blocking free conversation? I invited you to support your claim. You dodged.

    Please: use your free conversation to support your claim. Or continue to dodge. Your choice.
     
  14. allegoricalfact

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    Such choices ......my my I wonder which one I'll pick ? dip dip sky blue ...................
     
  15. Hannibal

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    Whining is a good excuse for not supporting your claims. In a conversation, there are different people presenting and supporting ideas and evidence.

    'Truthers' just drop empty claims with no evidence, then whine and run away.

    Run on, 'truthseeker'.
     
  16. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    It is the game that you and your gang of bullies play all the time and you now call it whining ? That's this bullies games name is it ? Yes it would be.

    ''I think I shall go and play Whining with some Trolls this afternoon''.

    Except No I will not, I will not discuss or give evidence of anything to you or any of your gang.

    If anyone seriously wants to talk, I will talk to them
     
  17. Hannibal

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    I see, so you'll only talk with someone who completely agrees with you. How boring.

    So far, you seem to be the one blocking conversation. All you've done is whine and call names. Come down off your pedestal, stop playing the victim and support your claim, if you are able.
     
  18. Hannibal

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    Let's start with something easy: you state that the buildings were 'empty'. Do you mean empty of people, empty of businesses, or what? Please support this statement with evidence.
     
  19. LoneStrSt8

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    Then quit whining first...bullies <eyeroll>
     
  20. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Great team effort. She'll probably go away now. Excellent work.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Wonder why you haven't left....
     
  22. Hannibal

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    All you have to do to get a 'truther' to run away: ask for their evidence.
     
  23. allegoricalfact

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    Lol, they are truth eaters waiting for prey to walk into their trap ................... te he starve 'em out ;-)
     
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    Perhaps because I realize the team's objective and I like to give the team something to put on their time sheets, helping them keep their jobs. Hey...I like to do what I can to help out in this tough economy.
     
  25. Hannibal

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    More whining, still no evidence or sources from the 'truther' team.
     

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