11 year old rape victim given to c section instead of abortion

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Why didn’t the medical officers wait? I mean they had already made her wait 5 weeks - why not wait longer?
     
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    What part of 11 years old do you not get??

    Or are you using the Catholic Priests measure for age of consent?
     
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    Some people who shall remain nameless simply cannot imagine what it must be like to be an eleven year old girl raped by a 65 year old man and being face to face with the product of that rape for the first time.
    Yes, it is a baby. No, it is doubtful that an eleven year old will ever be able to process such a travesty.
    Yes, the baby can be adopted.
    No, it is unlikely this little girl will ever be able to "normalize" such an experience.
    Yes, early termination would have been preferable so that the little girl could get over the nightmare and rebuild her normal life.
    No, I doubt a loving God would find fault with that.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't claim ignorance and naivety on the one hand, while claiming she's competent enough to decide on the other.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt an abortion would have made everything "all right".
    First she was raped, then the baby growing inside of her would have been brutally dismembered and killed. Do you even know what that involves? First they stick a very long thick needle pushing it through her abdomen. Poison is injected into the fetus, to hopefully kill it, or at least knock it unconscious. Then the brutal process of dismemberment begins. Her cervix is forcefully pried open, cold metal tools inserted. I don't think I need to go into any more detail, but it's not pretty. (limbs are ripped off, the head is crushed, so it will come out easier)
    That's not traumatic?
     
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    Well you want to make sure the job is done right
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does this job have to be done?
     
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    Wrong question.

    Why not?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you implying it doesn't matter much either way?
     
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    No. It matters a great deal if you want the abortion
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you think that girl would want an abortion?
    (Let's assume, hypothetically, that her family members were not telling her what to do or putting pressure on her)
     
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    None of my business. No reason is ever required when you want one
     
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    And you still believe that applies to an 11-year-old girl.

    You believe an 11-year-old girl should be able to walk into an abortion clinic all by herself and be given a free taxpayer paid for abortion.

    Heck, make that a late-term abortion.
     
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    No. I think it should be up to her legal guardian
     
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    Is it her choice, or isn't it?
     
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    It should be up to the legal guardian
     
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    So now when you're talking about "pro-choice" you're not talking about her choice.

    Isn't that just as bad as what pro-choicers accuse pro-lifers of ?
     
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    For a minor under 16.....yes
     
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    Well guess what. Someone did make the choice for her, and it wasn't her parents.
     
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    Couldn't you say the government took legal guardianship over her, temporarily in this situation?
    What's so wrong about that?

    It seems like what you are most outraged about is that the choice that was made for her wasn't abortion.
     
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    If the doctor felt this was the safest medical decision I am fine with it
     
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    The waiting 5 weeks was criminal. She should have had an abortion sooner. Much safer
     
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    Not for the fetus.
    Would an abortion 5 weeks earlier really have been that much safer than the c-section?

    (and I think it was 4 weeks, not 5, not that it actually matters that much)
     
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    O-effen-kay, be it an acorn, in that case to this girl, it is her baby. A baby she wants to end the life of.
     
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    I don't think she actually wanted an abortion. I think that was just what her parents were telling her she wanted.

    Most normal 11-year-old girls don't think that way on their own.
     
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