21% of Those Tested in N.Y.C. Had Virus Antibodies

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  1. MrTLegal

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    The overwhelming majority of people who become infected with the virus experience mild symptoms or no symptoms at all.

    This virus poses virtually no threat to 99% of the population.

    The large majority of people who die from this virus are already on the verge of death living out their last days in a nursing home.

    Suspending normal life for the entire population based on a virus that almost exclusively endangers hospice patients is nutty.
     
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    Do whatever you want to do. Just stop pretending like everyone else is obligated to do the same. You have no right to lock me inside my own home because you're afraid of a virus. That's your problem, not mine.
     
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    Except all the fear mongering that preceded these draconian lockdowns wasn't based on any evidence, let alone billions of data points.

    It was just a bunch of speculation based on dubious models. And you alarmists touted them as if they were infallible.

    But now that actual evidence is emerging, suddenly it's not good enough for you, the same people who relied entirely on speculative models to upend society.

    Funny how there was no time to discuss the wisdom of the lockdown - we just needed to obey - but now that we want to lift the lockdown, everyone has to take their time to painstakingly assess the data.

    Maybe you should have done that BEFORE you ruined society and handed over totalitarian powers to the government?
     
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    And Y = 10^x IS. Do you have a point?
     
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    You're the biggest fascist around.
     
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    Food poisoning poses virtually no threat to 99% of the people get food poisoning, apparently.
     
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    I'm sure you think this is a valid rebuttal.
     
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    You established the definition of "virtually no threat" as "non-death."

    So, yea.
     
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    No, I didn't.
     
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    Gotta agree with the guy. In the case of food poisoning, it could be because the person is allergic, and in which case, yeah 99.2% of people(Let's say .8% are allergic to the same thing) would not have experienced food poisoning while X individual did.

    Do you stop 99.2% of people from eating something because .8% could die from it? No, that's ridiculous.

    Or let's say that it's that certain bowl that was contaminated. Let's say it was raw meat undercooked at a restaurant. We don't know if they cooked all of the meat raw. If they did, then yeah that restaurant should be closed, but the meat itself didn't cause any problems. Or if it were just that one bowl, then all of the other bowls are still healthy to eat.

    We operate at a majority because that's the way to secure the most rights to most people without burdensome restrictions.
     
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    Looking more and more like a typical new strain of flu.. isn't it.. the hysteria is manufactured to produce the exact results we are seeing..
     
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    the virus is the kavorkian of today ;)
     
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    aren't they globalists & they definitely have a degree... in bs
     
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    ...the number of confirmed dead will change, you mean?

    I think the swedish model is fairly dumb all things considered, but it is possible that they will see the better result in the very, very long term.

    For right now, they rank 17th in terms of the cases per million, but 7th in terms of deaths per million. So that seems like the current data goes against their model, but their model is predicated on making it suck now to make suck less later on.

    I would like to see the economic data for them as well because that is supposedly the big draw of this technique as well.
     
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    Small businesses cannot pay off our crooked officials.

    “Politics in modern America has become a lucrative business, an industry that has less to do with policy and a lot more to do with accessing money and favors. … bills and regulations are often introduced not to affect policy change, but as vehicles for shaking down people for … money and favors. Indeed, the motive on both sides often has nothing to do with creating a “correct” policy but instead is often about maximizing profits.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, Buy Votes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, p. 4.
     
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    You are accusing the small band of Pilgrims of cowardice for not going to war against England? ;-)

    Do you think the refugees who come to the US to be fed and sheltered by the Border Patrol or in our prisonsz when they commit felonies would "flee" to the America the Pilgrims chose to live in?

    “Harold E. Driver found even more significance in the Indian obsession. 1 with war: No young man ever thought of getting married or of being accepted as an adult citizen until he had slain an enemy and brought back a scalp to prove it. So important was this achievement to the individual that when war parties failed to contact the enemy and to obtain the necessary scalps, they sometimes killed members of their own tribe, whom they accidentally encountered on their way home rather than return empty-handed and in disgrace.” Osborn, p 26.
     
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    Looking forward to your live testimonial, should do a day by day break down on how it feels. Have at it. It only hospitalized otherwise healthy young adults..but im sure it was all in their heads right?
     
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    And whos locking you inside your home?

    Hundreds gather outside Arizona Capitol, rallying to reopen the state
    https://www.azfamily.com/news/conti...cle_bfea0e04-88dd-11ea-b08c-538e0b58ed9a.html

    NO one said you had to stay locked in, they recommend people to go out jogging, and to leave the house. Heck look at those people gathered in a large group.

    Now you have no right to demand people reopen their business so you can sue them when you get sick. Nor does an employer have the right to demand you risk your health for their profits. They MUST provide the appropriate PPE.

    If they want, tell your boss to get some 3d Printers and have at it printing you guys face masks. Ill get back at it once you fresh guinea pigs flesh out all the kinks alright. I see there is no stopping you.
     
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    Do you understand how probability works? Because it doesn't seem like you do.

    The amount of "otherwise young healthy adults" who suffered death or serious health problems from COVID is infinitesimal. I probably have a better chance of being struck by lightening. Spending inordinate time and energy fretting over something that has virtually no chance of happening is irrational and self-destructive. I will just keep exercising common sense like I always have and let the chips fall where they may. I would much rather do that than be a coward hiding from the world, waiting for permission from the nanny-state to go outside.
     
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    An overweight billionaire named J.B. Pritzker.

    I'm not demanding anything from anyone except what is already mine by right: My basic freedoms and human dignity.
     
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    Canada!
     

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