22 Israelis murdered 180 wounded during the last two months

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  1. Goomba

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    And for the umpteenth time, the Torah is regarded as corrected text written by men.
     
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    that's not what the koran says.
     
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    Post the pertinent verse.
     
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    Lo! We did reveal the At-Taurah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

    — Quran, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 44[1]
     
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    No one is denying that the Prophets did not receive God's word before the Qur'an. But unlike the Qur'an, these texts were eventually corrupted.
     
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    in your opinion.
     
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    But of course....
     
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    The Torah is the same today as it was 2,000 years ago.
     
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    From the poster who claims the world will submit and yield to islam...I'd imagine a general poll of this forum would not agree with you.

    Huh? Nice deflective flail, doesn't even make sense...there are members of the US government from almost every other country on earth, every person who is a citizen in the US is allowed to vote, hold whatever job they want, etc., and it is not based upon religion. You are running off the rails here.

    "Insignificant minority?" There were over 600 THOUSAND of them in iraq alone, there are 25 million kurds and millions more christians throughout the mideast, these are not "insignificant minorities"... :roll:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis

    No matter how many times you are proven wrong on this issue, you keep just repeating the same nonsense.

    Of course not, only arab muslims are allowed to be sovereign in the mideast :roll:

    Interesting how you continue to attack christian europe for poor treatment of jews, but despite being shown evidence of many massacres of them by muslims, you brush them away, making silly excuses.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Jews-Islam-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0691054193

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

    Sure they were, except when the arab muslims were mass slaughtering them. Every time I've posted a link proving you wrong, you scoff it off and make up excuses for the muslim pogroms and massacres of non-muslims.
     
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    By definition, terrorism is senseless and lunacy - as the Japanese say if you have to raise your voice, you've already lost the argument, now apply that to the actions of a terrorist.

    If there terrorists' cause was so "just," they would not need violence and murder to attract supporters and solidify its legitimacy.
     
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    The text of Korans buried in the walls of early mosques in Yemen differs from current versions.
     
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    Agreed, had the jews just acted like arab muslims, they would have ethnically cleansed and massacred whatever arab muslims were left in the vicinity after the 1967, but no - they had to be "merciful," which has led to the problems of the current day, where the arab muslims' mindless, insane terrorism continues. Had the arab muslims been expelled in '67, this nonsensical conflict would have been over long ago.
     
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    a lot of course were ethnically cleansed in 67. I am not sure that had Israel been honest about it's intention to take over the West Bank in 67 it would have survived....and I also think the chances of it surviving in the way it has done it is also slim now.
     
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    And I already responded to that here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433636&page=37&p=1065618243#post1065618243

    You most definitely are nitpicking 1 sentence out of that article 80, and disregarding everything else of the UN Charter and international law.

    The UN Charter clearly states this may never ever ever ever happen at the expense of the civil rights of the indigenous population. And who knows that there are more of them "but" and "incase" and "if". That is where the ICJ, the UN and the UNSC comes in to take the ENTIRE UN Charter and the ENTIRE international law in regard and not just nitpicking that 1 sentence from article 80.
     
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    Turkey, a muslim nation, has over 2 million.
    Lebanon, a full Arab nation, has over 1 million (while they only have like 6 million people)
    Jordan, a full Arab nation, also over 1 million. (while they only have like 8 million people)
    The UAE and Iraq, both have over 200.000. Kuweit got almost 150.000.
    And that is just a bit less than Germany who complains it can't cope with that many people.

    Safe to say... you got no clue at all about this.
     
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    The current problems the Jews face in Israel is their own product of ethnic cleansing Arabs to thieve their land to live there themselves. Any person who participates in ethnic cleansing, votes for it so it happens in it's name or picks the fruits of ethnic cleansing is a war criminal. And a war criminal on the loose,... is a person who is a perfectly legal target to be killed if there is no other real way to settle the problem his crimes are creating.

    And indeed... if the Jews acted like Nazi Germany and won, than they would be much better off
    Just like an Arian nazi in Germany would be much better off if Hitler won WWII.
    Is that the kind of world you wish for?
     
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    It's not.
    In general, world wide, the perception remains to this day that Nelson Mandela is a hero and champion of civil and human rights for his way of an armed resistance against an oppressive racist regime. And that apartheid regime is on the other hand seen as the party who is highly wrong. And that regime who convicted Nelson as the terrorist that he is.
     
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    Nelson committed no actual terrorism
     
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    And as I replied to it in here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433636&page=37&p=1065618264#post1065618264

    I already replied to such claim. Please read: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433636&page=44&p=1065622628#post1065622628

    I already responded to such claims. Please read: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=433636&page=34&p=1065614450#post1065614450
     
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    He was an instigator, which makes him the biggest terrorist of them all, most likely inspiring Palestinian mothers to raise the current wave of back stubbers. However, South African blacks were not known for the particularly heinous terrorism tactics like blowing busses full of women and children and stabbing people in the back. There are no worse terrorists than Palestinian terrorists.
     
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    Heart of the matter remains...
    you simply only use one line form the UN charter and keep on repeating it.
    We all know the UN charter and international law is a lot bigger than 1 line.
    A heck of a lot bigger.

    And you, Israel and your expert lost the case.
    And you got no respect for the course of international law,
    otherwise you would have accepted the ruling of the ICJ.
     
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    And in the light that he used violence to combat oppression of a race by a government supported by a certain part of the population... made him a hero world wide. And the people who tossed him in jail, are on the wrong side of history for ever.
     
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    :wall:
     
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    unfortunately for you. There is not question about it, that Mandela is seen as a hero for fighting a racist oppressive regime.
    Please deal with it.
     
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    If you insist :roll:
     
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