23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results

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  1. gamma875

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    Right, because those inner city parents and countless others are so well equipped to make the right choices.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Went to Baltimore City Schools website

    "Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world."
    Baltimore City Public Schools (baltimorecityschools.org)

    Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy,

    Yeah, focused on changing the world as opposed to Reading, Writing and Arithmetic.
     
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    Wow, what a remarkably racist statement.

    Do tell, why do you think they're incapable of making good decisions?
     
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    Wow, that is a remarkably ignorant reply.
     
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    You're welcome to demonstrate that by answering my question to explain your reasoning. Will you?
     
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    Just better equipped than the teachers union. Motivated by the best interests of their own child. As opposed to changing the world.
     
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    Education is a very important but complex matter and while I have absolutely no doubt that parents do wish the best for their children, parents in inner cities and other disadvantaged areas who work sometimes multiple jobs to make ends meet, have little to no expertise in how to educate and must rely on the system to do what rightfully is deserved by children.
    It is also hypocritical to one hand have governors dictate education, while on the other advocating that parents should do.
     
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    Parental good wishes do not amount to being better equipped to educate. The system is failing and I agree that while there are scores of truly dedicated and caring educators out there at every level, the system as a whole is failing and yes teachers unions are also part of the problem.
     
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    Better equipped to chose a different school to educate their kids as opposed to government not allowing them to do so. I'll wait here while you slay the strawman. Im sure it will be impressive.
     
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    Is it really so hard for a poor, hardworking mom to think to herself “My kid isn’t reading at her grade level and few of her classmates are. 80% of the students her age are reading at their grade level at the school across town. Maybe I should send her there?”

    IMO, you’re making up reasons to protect a failing, traditional public school model.
     
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    And then decide that there is no way to get her kid there.

    On the contrary, I am outraged at such failure and want to see a working model for the benefit of all our children.
     
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    This is not about what is optimal.

    When you say "two parents is better than one", you have to note that there are large numbers of single parent families.

    So, I simply asked what it is that you want to do about that.
     
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    The American education system is clearly an obsolete boondoggle.
     
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    A sad reality.
     
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    Do you seriously believe there are those who got 4 year degrees and then went on to get master's degrees in education AND they "don't want to teach"??

    It's cheap and easy to blame the teachers - as if they are the ones who wanted the current situation.
     
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    You’re right. There is no way to get her kid there, because the traditional public school system, for all intents and purposes, has her captive.

    At least in our cities, the system you’re defending is working for no one but those who profit front it.
     
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    Yes, but the problem is that all of us deal with the same crap- including the people who generate it. They make their own lives worse.
     
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    Why the **** do you make up crap?
    What and where have I defended the system?
     
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    Your #91 didn't include ANY solution.

    You can decide what is optimal by some various measures. There isn't much disagreement on the idea that two parents who love each other and work together is better than other arrangements.

    But, noting what is best is not a solution until you specify what you want to do about it.
     
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    Alas. IMO, the quickest way to significant reform would be to transfer all the money first to the control of parents/guardians and then, from vested individual use accounts) to teachers liberated from the current system and empowered form their own independent schools from their homes or other local venues.
    Large land based schools are now, for the most part, obsolete.

    Government is inherently incompetent and inefficient, but transferring wealth is the one thing it can do very effectively.
     
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    yeah my comment was two parents are better than one that's what I said and I don't know what entered your head to go on that tirade you went on.

    You need to pay attention to what said instead of reacting emotional
    no I don't they're not even relevant to the point I made.
    AND I ANSWERED YOU TOO DIFFERENT WAYS.
     
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    yeah my solutions were in a different post that you ignored.
    Again my solutions were in another post to ignored you're ignoring it because it goes against this leftist trash that you people believe.
     
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    I totally agree! At least you recognized it :(
     
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    Well, that's pretty obvious given that nobody chooses to address the issues going on.

    Deciding that education can't work is a cheap out, but it's just obviously false.
     
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    The objective has to be to improve education.

    I don't see you proposing how to do that.
     

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