4 in 10 millennials don't know 6 million Jews were killed in Holocaust, study shows

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt it was that many, it was a lot though, no one knows a true number, it was a horrible event, no need to over-exaggerate or play it down

    we did the same to Indians here in this country sadly, and we do not know the true count there either
     
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    Interesting claim. Have documentation for that?
     
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    The exact number isn't that important. What's important is the long term effects the holocaust had on history and how it plays a huge part in today's world. No holocaust no Israel.
     
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    my Bosnian son-in-law had no real knowledge of the genocide in Bosnia until I told him, he grew up in Germany and Canada and it was never of any interest to him.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how about all students start in the same schools, and then we separate them out based on their abilities, that way those that want to learn can learn more

    though not sure what that has to do with this topic
     
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    Feel free to go through my list and tell me how overhead cost would remain the same.


    Less teachers less teachers wages
    Less students less books
    Less students less non teaching staff
    Less students less meals
    Less students in the long run would mean smaller more fuel efficient buses which would keep the AGW crowd happy
    Utility bills would go down as class rooms were not utilized with heat and AC and lighting
     
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    Less teachers less teachers wages
    Less students less books
    Less students less non teaching staff
    Less students less meals
    Less students in the long run would mean smaller more fuel efficient buses which would keep the AGW crowd happy
    Utility bills would go down as class rooms were not utilized with heat and AC and lighting

    There would never be enough 'less' students' to have an impact. Logistically most families can't get kids to the available private schools.
     
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    How about a voucher system that let's parents decide which schools offer their kids a better education. Public schools were started with westward expansion two centuries ago so children of people colonizing the west could get at least a rudimentary education. The truth is they have now morphed into a bloated bureaucracy and may have outlived their usefulness.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Translation: You are correct, Max. I want you to pay for my kid's private education and shut the **** up or I'll label you a godless liberal commie for disagreeing with me.

    Got it. Thanks.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am ok with you getting a tax refund for what you put in to the school tax if you choose not to use the public school system, what I am against is you deciding not to use the public school system and wanting more then you put in - then your making the public school system pay for your private school
     
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    Translation: You are correct joseph, I want to tell you where your kids can go to school and you have no such aspirations with me.
     
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    I say just give people that want to go to a private school a tax cut for the amount they paid for public school, no way should we be giving religious schools 5 grand for every child they entice to go to their schools, especially when most of them are against birth control, a family of 10 would cost a fortune 10 vouchers x $50,000.00 x 13 years = $1,300,000 for just one family (tax free), no wonder Muslims and Christians want vouchers
     
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    A certain amount is allocated per student for their education and that's the amount the public school receives per student. What's wrong with a voucher system that would let the parents control that set amount and use it to fund an education in a competing school?
     
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    I don't think you know how public schools are funded. They get a set amount per student that attends their school so your family of 10 is already costing tax payers the money you fear would be spent on them.
     
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    cause part of that goes to the school building, not to the child - why should you steal from parents that want their child to go to a public school, I am all for giving you your money back that you would of paid for a public school, I am not ok with you taking from other parents that wanted their child to go to a public school, so your children can go to a private school
     
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    The building would cost less to run and maintain as student body shrunk. Class rooms would be shut down and wouldn't require maintenance or heating or cooling or lights
     
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    Quote a single statement where I've said such a thing. Are you honest enough to admit you are lying?

    You're the one who wants me, and other taxpayers, to pay for your kid to go to private school. The fact you won't admit the wrongness of that is why I consider you to not only be equal to liberal authoritarians, but also dishonest.
     
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    a state that got their vouchers - lol, careful what you wish for... it very well may fund religions other then your own

    "Vouchers can be used for Muslim Schools? OOPS!"
     
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    not much, the building doesn't shrink, the cost are pretty much fixed, same with teachers, one less kid in a class doesn't mean one less teacher needed or one less room needed

    your trying to justify taking away from tax payers to fund your private school - a private school that will possibly discriminate against some of the same tax payers

    how about no private school can take tax payer funded vouchers that discriminates based on race, gender or religion - if you don't want the government controlling your school, don't make the government pay for your school
     
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    Yes, something I mentioned earlier, but happy to see actual evidence. Thanks for reference.
     
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    No one is telling you where your kids can go to school. You are free to send them to any private school you like or even home school them.
     
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    Agreed. He's simply trying to derail away from his point that he wants other-people's-money to pay for it.
     
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    evidence of what? are you saying GOP Hodges was lying?
     
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    we have the same situation where I live, private schools want government funding but also want to restrict who can attend their schools and have a curriculum that may not reflect the public schools educational standards.
     
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    There's a correlation. But it isn't 1:1.
    No one is naive enough to believe it's 1:1. But someone with a far out in the field agenda with no basis in reality.
     

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