4-year-old boy sacrificed on the alter of environmentalism

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A boy suffered a tragic death as an unintended and unforeseen result of the environmental movement. But hey, the planet needs saving, right? Sometimes got to break a few eggs...

    All due to a trendy new household item.

    Question: Who has metal straws if not to make an environmental statement?

    Small change, big impact: metal straws

    Eco-friendly alternatives for every-day products have engulfed the consumer market in the past decade. Among these, the metal straw stands tall as a current, trendy and exportable accessory to our beverages. But how effective are they in combatting the plastic crisis?

    We must admit: the metal straw is a stylish utensil. Its desirability stems from a perceived edginess and alternative charm. To some, they are tools of activism, lending the feeling that you are minimising plastic waste as you sip. ​

    Small change, big impact: metal straws - The Boar, Charlotte Crabtree, May 4, 2020


    It was a beautiful June day on Long Island.
    Crystal DeFraia offered her 4-year-old son Charlie his favorite drinkable yogurt, which he enjoyed slurping through a metal straw.
    She was in the backyard chatting with a technician who was there to service the family's new pool, when she heard her other 8-year-old daughter Madison scream.
    Madison appeared, a look of horror on her face. Charlie had fell off the porch.
    Crystal ran to find her son covered with blood. At first, she thought Charlie had broken his nose or bitten his lip, but there was too much blood. Blood was pumping out of his mouth.
    While waiting for the ambulance, Crystal's husband kept the boy on his stomach to avoid choking. Emergency responders were only five minutes away, but he wasn't sure his son was going to make it.
    "He essentially bled out in our front lawn. I watched life leave his eyes."

    Parents warn against metal straws after New York boy stabbed in throat (usatoday.com), Adrianna Rodriguez, September 12, 2022
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, yes he did survive, but just barely. His right carotid artery and jugular vein had been punctured and were bleeding into his neck tissues and through a tear in the back of his throat. Doctors didn't have much time. They had to repair the artery not just to stop the bleeding but to restore blood flow to the right side of Charlie’s brain. Each passing minute increased his risk of a devastating stroke. The injury was very high up near the skull base, making it too risky to approach surgically. The case required a special technique that was beyond most hospitals' capabilities, but luckily the boy was at Stony Brook Hospital. They used a self-expanding stent that covered the whole in the artery. 10 years ago, the hospital wouldn't have been able to use that technique. The boy did apparently suffer some very minimal damage to brain tissue and will require physical therapy, speech therapy and therapy for fine motor skills.
     
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    so do you feel the same about metal guns? Sacrificing children for the 2nd?

    same with cars... so many children sacrificed to those

    that said, if I use a straw, I prefer disposable
     
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    I don't give a gun or a car to a four-year-old.
     
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    So you are using this child's death to further a political agenda. Quite pathetic.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but they get hurt by guns and cars just the same, accidents happen
     
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    Not really the point.
     
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    sure it is, this was an accident
     
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    Sacrificed on the alter of environmentalism.......listen to yourself.

    You think metal straws are new?

    Don't run with scissors. Don't let kids run with metal straws in their mouths.
     
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    An accident enabled by a parent's poor judgment.
     
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    same with guns and cars is often true
     
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    Not by giving guns or cars to four-year-olds.
     
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    they were using the car when they got hurt

    they had access to the gun when they got hurt
     
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    Kids choke on toys or kinder eggs too.
     
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    Nope. The four-year-old had the metal straw unsupervised and by himself. You can't spin this on cars or guns.
     
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    Yes they do, which why packaging includes warnings.
     
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    Do we know if the packaging for metal straws has a warning on it?
     
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    If it does the parents disregarded it.
     
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    yes, accidents happen, same with guns and cars
     
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    This accident was enabled by parents.
     
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    yep, same with accidents involving guns and cars
     
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    Only if a four-year-old were left alone with either.
     
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    he fell off the porch, maybe we should ban porches?

    children been left alone with cars and guns and have gotten hurt or killed
     
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    this was a tragic accident, with the typical misleading right wing headline...BRAVO is it any wonder rightwingers are not believable and dismissed so easily?
     
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    He should not have had a metal straw regardless of location.
     
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