They were centre left. The far left in Germany at the time was the Communist Party. Fascism is a centre left political ideology. The idea that America is fascist is quite comical and basically stems from an absence of any knowledge whatsever of what fascism is outside of that it is "bad". And then one identifies bad with ones enemies. In the true style of burning all the books, the left has attempted to rebrand it's darker past as the actions of the right. But this is not the case. The NAZi's were neither on the extremes of politics nor on right wing. Left and right wing. centre or far, pertains to your seating position in parliament. The party with the most members sits nearest to the centre on each side. So in the UK, the far left is currently the SNP and the Greens. The far right is the DUP and the Lib Dems. While the two main parties, Tory and Labour hold the centre. The greatest enemy of Fascism, both politically and ideologically was Liberal Democracy. The Anglo's. They ****ing hate America.
In the fifties the Brits had to adjust to being yesterday's "great power". In the 21st Century the same is true for Europe. Euros are best regarded as a geopolitical suburb of Unlike the 20th century, today neither Euro industry nor raw materials count for much. Get use to it Europe. Moi
Yes, and it's your fault. You responded to what I said instead of what I meant! Using the word 'decimation' is probably incorrect to describe the destruction of an industry plus the fact that I said "it will be the biggest nuke-manufacturing nations that become decimated" so I did (by default) say that Americans would be decimated .... and I definitely didn't mean to say that. Wrong word - wrong place. You know what they say about "two wrongs" don't ya'? Don't go crazy now but I was wrong, you were right.
The Nazis were Nationalists in the highest degree. Doesn't that usually describe "right"? And "Far Left" well, you can play with that term all day long but if you think of Socialism and Communism being "left" all I can tell you is that the NAZIS were fervent anti-Leftists. They hated both. But now I'd love to hear why you think the Nazis were "clearly far left". I am sure it will be an interesting opinion.
What do you mean "get use to it"? What are you going to do the day after the Petro-Euro goes into effect? Mass suicide?
Do you accept the concept of peace through superior firepower? In macrocosm. Fighting takes place in the playground. Until teacher show up and stops it. Fighting takes place at the football match until police turn up and stop it. Peace in Europe was achieved through war. Not a common will. Not the league of nations. not through mutual co-operation of good intention. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. But through the application of crushing and superior force. This peace has been maintained in Europe, not through the EC, the EEC and then the EU. But by the occupational armies of Russia, America and Great Britain. They pacified it. And then they put their boot on it's neck. And we have known peace ever since. But now. Those armies are leaving or have left. This has created a power vacuum. We can see from the withdrawl of Soviet forces than this has allowed all the old wars to re-ignite. The UK has all but left and America has reduced it's forces and moved most of them east. This creates a power vacuum. Party's will seek to fill it. Will vy for control of it. Wars will occur. Peace is not delivered by the UN. It is not delivered by the EU. No matter how much you wish this to be true, it is not. And it never will be. If you want peace, you have to fight for it.
The Nazi's hated the commies so much they allied with them. In Germany, Nazi's and Commies fought over the same electoral base. Both were socialist workers peoples parties. Far from hating socialists. The Nazi's were socialists and self identified as such. Hence the name. Doh! The Social Democrats, the conservatives, were their core political opposition. The right wing. Although the Nazi's and Commies were definitely in competition with each other for the left wing vote. The Nazi's were the dominant of the two. The centre left. The Commies the far left. In WW2 the German Nazi's and the Russian Commies began as allies and went on to become enemies. This is perhaps geopolitical in essence rather than it was politically ideological. Nationalist vs globalist is not a left right division. both sides of the house are divided on this. So in Italy you can see a coalition of left and right vs the EU. Left and right nationalist party's vs left and right globalist parties. The same is true in Greece and the UK. Immigration is politically divided by class. Not left and right wing. The lower classes hate it, the upper classes love it. The convention of left and right began in the court of Louis the XIV. It pertains to which side of the king your party sat on in parliament. The attempt to link the right with nationalism is nothing more than an attempt to link them the Nazi's who are considered evil. Demonsation. The attempts to link immigration with Nazism is the same. All the more laughable because the Jews the Nazi's enslaved and genocided weren't immigrants. And the Nazi policy of Lebensraum encouraged Nazi's to be become migrants themselves. Cheap re-writing of history wholly dependent on peoples ignorance for it's success.
The National Socalist Party whom only declared war on the US as a war against Capitalism, whom procured Jewish property for the state, whom had social policies... VW stands for the people's car. Only an idiot would think right wing = hate and left wing = love.
Sure. We just aren't sensitive enough to the needs of extremely violent people from extremely violent cultures living in extremely violent countries who send us their most violent age range of young males to enjoy. Let's ignore reality and focus on being nicer to the people who are invading us.
Straw men get more boring by the day. Here's a nifty though: violent people are violent people. Nonviolent people are nonviolent people. Judging a nonviolent person based on the actions of a violent person just because they share the same skin color or come from the same country is unthinking nonsense. No, let's just pay attention to actual reality instead of feeding white nationalist fever dreams.
Idiots have nothing to do with it and there are no idiots on this subject in any case. Am I to understand that you are judging policy on a name? Please tell me it is not true! Do you consider the DDR and the DRK to be Democratic? I guess so, huh? That's what they are called.
Fairly easy to have accomplished that. Had Germany been given the same treatment as post-WW II Germany ...... any more questions?
No Boardie more than Moi wishes European nations or the E.U. to stand up on its' hind legs like they matter. They can't do nothin' without my tax dollar support. Back when NATO was righteously bombing LIbya an effort was made to let the Euros do some. Well that was quickly discontinued when a jet flown by an Italian and another by a Frenchman crashed into each other while flying to Libya. Don't worry, the tax payer will buy them each a shiny new one. Repeat: No Boardie more than Moi wishes European nations or the E.U. to stand up on its' hind legs like they matter. Oh and get your Euro hands out of my pockets. Still waiting for BRICS. What happened? Petro-Euro Oh I'm so scared Moi too!
By making the mistake of letting them think that their concerns are legitimate enough to warrant debate instead of just being xenophobic nonsense? I guess you are right. Too much of that and they may think there's something to their collectivist race cult.
I didn't call nationalism a basic failure of the concept of individualism. I called racial nationalism a failure of the basic concept of individualism, as is all racism. "Globalism" is largely an anti-capitalist boogeyman.
Germany was completely rebuilt by the allies after WW1 just as it was in WW2. Which took exactly zero rebuilding, since it hadn't been destroyed. WW1 was fought in France, not Germany. France got destroyed. Not Germany. It wasn't however occupied militarily after the war as it was in WW2 and it's leadership weren't all executed like they were in WW2. It's women weren't all raped either. That is the key differences between Germany's treatment after WW1 and WW2. After WW1 Germany felt humiliated but not defeated. After WW2, they knew they had lost. There is no German leader today explaining to the people that they can take it all back. They now fully understand how that will end. Not just intellectually but emotionally. Risibly. They have a personal connection. A deep understanding of the negative consequences for them of war. As the country that smashed up a lot of Germany in WW2, the USA helped rebuild it. As the country that smashed up a lot of France in WW1, Germany decided it would rather do it again than pay.
Yes, he did. Tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Ismail Pasha, do not randomly pick a class of people as their target. The purpose of a target class is to get the people to blame their misery on someone, focus the people on the target group, and make the people think the target group is powerful and corrupt and the cause of their misery. The the soon-to-be tyrant presents himself as the "protector" of the people and someone who understands the peoples problems and someone who is uniquely positioned to fight the target class as the peoples champion. The target class needs to have some features, such as some existing prejudice within the people, and the peoples perception of the target class has to be open to manipulation through propaganda. These things are not random. Hitler selected the Jews for very specific reasons.
Because that's the way propaganda works. The Left can do no wrong because their first and only interest is in the equality and welfare of the people and, although they may get a bit irrational at times and murder millions along the way, they're forgiven because their ultimate goals are noble. Of course we know that's nonsense because they've killed so many innocent people over the years from Lenin to Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, and Kim in NoKo. However, undeterred and despite their record, the Leftists continue in this direction anyway. The Nazis are now right wing so therefore Winston Churchill must have been a Left Winger. Communism is now morphing into a historical right wing movement - because off their atrocious records - so that now makes Ronald Reagan a Left Winger. Much of the MSM and the education system will teach malleable minds that Left is Right, that there are evil people trying to prevent them from getting the free stuff they deserve- and free stuff is their right- that everything can and should be available at no personal cost or effort. A weekly allowance from a kindly and benevolent government with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton types in charge, distributing government largesse to the adoring masses who will have more time for sex, drugs, texting and TV... Anyone who denies the Leftists their dream is a Nazi, a Fascist, a Conservative, a Republican or, more recently, White.
