50% Say Clinton Should Keep Running Even If Indicted

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So the presumption of innocence applies to trump but not Hillary?
     
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    Does it? I don't see how you can claim that.
     
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    The bench is empty so they are stuck with this psycho (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
     
  4. sec

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    wrong, it's 71% of Democrat voters

    that doesn't speak well for Democrat voters
     
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    Come November, the Democrat party will put up either a 69 year old woman who has become a millionaire thanks to taxpayers and using political influence to garner dollars or, a 75 year old white male socialist who only knows how to take more from productive taxpayers. That is what the Democrat party puts forth yet we hear that they stand for American vlaues

    The GOP is putting forth a successful businessman who has grown a $multi-billion organization and employs tens of thousands of people; yet he's bad for the country
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I see what you're getting at which is nothing. What has Clinton done to make you think she'll be successful? That's a question no one can answer. Heck, what has she done to even make you think she's a liberal? She hasn't done anything. Nothing. Nada. All she has done is stand in front a microphones and either cackled her stupid phony laugh or barked like a dog and you leftists lap it up. Making matters worse for liberals is that any time she opens her mouth Trump can blast her by using her own words and actions.
     
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    the questions was if she is indicted so if you have the premiere law enforcement agency and the DOJ think they have strong enough case to warrant an indictment then that tells any reasonable person that there is truth to the accusations
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because anyone can bring a civil suit against anyone for any reason it takes evidence enough evidence for the police and a prosecuting attorney to bring up a criminal indictment
    we are talking about apples and oranges when you try to compare a civil lawsuit to a criminal indictment
     
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    I don't see why she shouldn't run. Hell, have her stage her campaign from a federal prison cell, I guess. That would certainly help that martyred woman narrative her and her feminist friends love so much.
     
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    She faced down the Benghazi inquiry with aplomb.

    She is a tough cookie against her opponents.

    That's why she'll make an excellent president.


    Much like Obama.


    There you go.
     
  11. creation

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    Indeed. But most of the various accusations against her are bull.

    The question we were asked is how can people support her.


    Your trouble is you keep asking questions and getting straight answers you don't want to see.

    Then you come with rebuttals like nada etc etc which I and many people simply don't agree with.

    Do you get that bit too?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Obfuscating, withholding information, lying before a committee is "facing down with aplomb"?

    What made her look good out of the hearings? She came out looking like an uninterested incompetent with more questions as to why she should be President than not.

    And you want to elect someone President who is going to violate the FRA and use a private unapproved unsecured communication system for which there is no oversight or accountability?
     
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    ever answer H. Clinton has given later has turned out to be utter lies unless you want to claim the state department IG is lying
     
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    Running, as in Fugitive from Justice? I'm sure she has some kin on the lam in the Ozarks, let her seek them out.

    Cheers
     
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    Lol. That's not what happened at all. There you are again. You put forth a premise that is not shared. Do you see that?

    Same with the other stuff. Your lines are mostly hearsay and conjecture. There's no reason everyone should simply take that from you or anyone.

    Indeed if charges and a solid case is brought perhaps you'll get a different answer. Why isn't my response to you reasonable? Perhaps this is the root of your trouble.
     
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    Perhaps but the last scandal turned out to be little but still there were nine hearings over it. Do you see that point at all?
     
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    Apparently.

    It's an issue of integrity, which is clearly lacking, and the Clintons have none.

    On the bright side, the primary reason the Roman Empire collapsed was that it allowed its highest office to become corrupted.

    I'm sure you'll be looking forward to that.
     
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    For a civil matter in a civil court? Do you really think so? What if Hillary is elected and her neighbor in Chappaqua sues here because the fence she built is over her property should she then resign? She and her husband were sued during Whitewater/Castle Grande investors who claimed they were defrauded, I don't recall the left calling for them to resign any positions.

    Do you REALLY conflate high crimes against the United States and the reckless mishandling of highly classified information with a civil suit?

    Hey when Bill was sued in a federal court for sexual harassment were you insisting he resign? After he was held in contempt of court in that federal lawsuit for submitting a false affidavit and tampering with witnesses, you know prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice to which he plea bargained, were you calling for him to resign?
     
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    Why? I have no basis on which to consider that, we know facts not in dispute, why should I consider something else?

    Benghazi is an entirely different matter. It is not about violating regulations or the law, that is about judgement and policy and then the cover-up which are all well documented and on the record now.

    What more did you think was going to come of it? It was an investigation into an important matter under Congressional oversight which of course Hillary's attitude was "What difference does it make" and DURING that investigation when they lied about emails her email system became known and became it's OWN separate issue under FBI investigation.

    Ahhhh, yes.................you have read the report? It is crushing on her and her staff. It exposes at least 5 lies about events that violated the regulations, regulations codified into law, for her official communications. She lied to YOU when she told YOU that what she did was perfectly allowable and had been approved and was operated with proper oversight. ALL bald face lies, about official conduct.

    So yes THIS report should end HER political career, how could you ever put someone who engaged in tsuch deliberate acts to conceal her actions and communications as a high official BACK into such a position? ESPECIALLY when it violated the law.

    Please explain.

    I see BIG problems for Clinton, she faces grave legal jeopardy and that noose tightens every week, it just keeps getting worse and worse. There has been NOTHING since this story broke over a year ago that mitigates or exonerates ANYTHING she did. It has been a steady drip drip drip of ever worsening news and revelations. Else tell me what good news for her had come out of this.
     
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    When the government officials involve obfuscate and obstruct and lie it tends to draw things out a little wouldn't you agree? And how many hearings are OK? Should a congressional inquiring end after some set time period or continue when new evidence leads to new questions until those questions are satisfied. Do you see that point at all?
     
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    This is because 50% of democrats believe Hillary is some sort of victim despite the fact she's a typical criminal...

    Jesse Jackson Jr. was easily reelected in his district and he was off to prison at the time.

    You see democrats don't really care - this is a game to them.... The results of an election are an "I'm right, you're wrong and the people have spoken" game to them.
     
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    Dude was doing nation business from her own personal server and it was hacked by a low level hacker..... She's not only treasonous but a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron too. Do we really need someone like that in the White House - a fool that can't even protect her own damn emails.....
     
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    Why would it surprise anyone that democrats want Hillary to keep running if she's indicted? They know she's guilty now and don't care.
     
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    I hate to be the one to have to break it to you but, 71% of Democrat voters, not 50% believe she should continue to run even if indicted.
     
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    After the Clintons long list of machinations? Yep.
     

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