61 dead Palestinians.... why did Trump do this?

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Post 472 read it and weep.

    Proves you wrong and me correct OBJECTIVELY.
     
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  2. dairyair

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    The only 1 who needs to weep is you. Not all, most do NOT, kill gay people. So therefore that is a subjective position.
     
  3. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    And it is not my position so I am correct and you are wrong.

    The point I made and proved is that the FAITH teaches and MANDATES it which is fact and which makes it barbaric.

    That is objective fact and you are being pwed.
     
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    Because 51% of Americans support recognition of Jerusalem as the capitol and only 29% do not AND Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure. Israel should have supported a two-state solution and abided by UN resolutions.
     
  6. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    How does "should have" solve problems?

    How can someone "should have" something?

    I'd like to be a multi-millionaire. Would you show me how to "should have" buy one share of Coca-Cola stock 100 years ago?
     
  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is the difference. White supremacists can change their beliefs more easily. Changing religious beliefs that have been taught to you almost since birth is much more difficult. So only bigots (such as White Supremaicsts) would make fun of people's religious beliefs.

    "Other religions" refer, for example, to the adoration that some express towards Donald Trump because of his racist positions. I can't be more specific without risking my post infringing forum rules that would get it deleted.

    Not much different from Christianity or Judaism.

    I think it's as much of an argument... strike that... it's a better argument than calling for a Religion to be ridiculed. Which would be a bigoted act that would appeal to white supremacists.

    No more than Christian beliefs or Jewish beliefs.

    I see no support for that statement. White supremacists have caused more mass-shooting deaths in this country than Muslim terrorists have for religious beliefs.
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I see no way to correct the big failure that Trump is.
     
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    The Democratic Party is responsible for the 61 killed by placating and supporting Palestinian terrorists.
     
  10. Soupnazi

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    Quite wrong.

    Bigotry is not based on how easy it is to change a mind.

    Judgement on the barbaric nature of a religion or ideology ( or both such as Islam ) is not ridiculing. It is a value judgement and not bigotry.

    Defending trump is political not religious and he has no such racist positions.

    It is arguable how different it is from judaism and christianity however it is also irrelevant as it is not an argument to say " other religions are as bad ".

    It is not bigoted to ridicule religion it is a valid position.

    Muslims have killed more in this country than mass shooters ( most of whom are not white supremacists ) have period. But that is also irrelevant as mass shooters are not a threat.

    Islam is a threat
     
  11. Polydectes

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    What's your Source on this.
     
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    That is isreal.

    I said point to it on a map.
     
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  13. Thought Criminal

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    No i did not. You inferred stupidly.

    because of your stupid inference?

    If you're going to accuse someone of being dishonest because of what you infer you have 0 intellectual honesty.


    I said nothing about Muslims so this isn't image of an inference this is just something you pulled completely out of your ass.
     
  15. Golem

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    Oh? But they can't lose an election and remain honorable? Your inconsistencies speak for themselves.

    In any case, you can't "disagree and remain honorable" when you are unable to produce even an attempt of an argument justifying such disagreement and instead rambling about something completely unrelated to the debate like Hillary and the elections.

    I believe what you were thinking was that you can lose a debate and remain honorable. But you didn't... Your divagations messed that up too.
     
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    I'm answering the poster's question. Pay attention!
     
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    Oops!

    That one's on me.
     
  18. Golem

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    And you read something different... where, exactly?

    Of course it's not based on that! Bigotry, racism, support for Trump, xenophobia... are all based on a lack of education. I have said that may times on this forum.

    No. Throwing a party to celebrate that you have insulted the religious beliefs of people is.

    What in the world are you talking about?

    What?

    Oh... I see. So you're going to say he's playing that "4D Chess" where he intentionally appears to any reasonable human being to be racist, but deep down inside he doesn't believe in what he says or does.

    It is arguable how different it is from judaism and christianity however it is also irrelevant as it is not an argument to say " other religions are as bad ".

    There are some kids in Texas who this morning would have wanted that to be true...

    But reality, and what the right says are incompatible.

    I do agree it's irrelevant to this discussion. Which is about how Trump's screw ups and racism have cost lives in the Middle East. But you're the one who keeps bringing up irrelevancies to this discussion.
     
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    "appears to any reasonable human being to be racist"

    No such person. The first characteristic eliminates the possibility of the decond.
     
  20. Golem

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    All right, all right.... ..

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    Happy?
     
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    It is your position, you keep repeating you subjective opinion.

    Here: The other 2 religions based on the same god have the same requirement written.
    Leviticus 20:13

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

    The bible calls for killing gays also.
    Yet only a few christians carry it out. And I am not aware of Jews carrying it out.
     
  22. dairyair

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    NOPE. You clearly stated that one will be killed in a muslim country, if one mentions they are gay.
    Everyone can read it.
     
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    there are a few Islamic countries that will execute you for being gay so I wasn't wrong.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    That isreal.

    If you pointed to Russia and said it was Palestine it would be exactly as right as this.
     
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    Your mind makes me think fo a bent corkscrew. Similar path to your logic.

    Of course you can lose an election and remain honorable, it's been being done for a long time.
    However- turning the country into a circus with malice, personal insults, targeted efforts to disrupt, to interfere and promote failure because you are unhappy with losing- those are not honorable things at all, and either you don't recognize that you are part of that or you think that the concept of ethics, of being responsible for your actions is totally flexible if you are unhappy with the outcome. Gross, GROSS double standard. You DO NOT do that and remain a person who can honestly respect themselves or their values. You may lie to yourself about it and never admit it- but deep inside, you know exactly what I'm talking about and you know it's true.
     
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