67,000 people believe something's wrong with what we were told about 9/11

Which you have NONE to prove a controlled demolition. You don't even have any calculations or analysis to show it was possible with explosives (or anything else for that matter).

All you truthers do is try and find holes in the official story to show it couldn't have happened, but never provide a viable alternative backed with physical evidence, calculations, models, etc.

 

Perhaps you are beyond convincing..

Or?

 

There is so much that goes on
with these sorts of discussions that simply boil down to
> it is
>> it isn't
> it is
>> it isn't
......................... ad infinitum ad nausum

The fact remains that given the state of the rubble pile
post "collapse" and the video evidence of the event(s)
the inescapable conclusion is that the towers & 7 were
blown up.

 

Sorry genericBob, but you're wrong. You have no physical evidence or calculations to back up what you claim. Only opinion.

That doesn't quite work here. The evidence and math support a gravity driven collapse.

 

Her DNA and personal effects were found in the wreckage of the Pentagon.
She died in an horrific fashion there.

 

Correction, you were told that her DNA & baggage was found
at the PENTAGON ...... The authorities had total control of the
scene at the PENTAGON, therefore they can concoct any sort
of fraud they wish to peddle.

 

You're REALLY showing bad taste here,bob

 

WHY? because I dare to address the issue of the death of the victims?
The greatest honor we can pay the departed is to know the TRUTH
about why they died.

 

No...Think harder,besides you claim no planes,so what victims?

 

The alleged victims, be they totally fake or real citizens who were
murdered to produce the made for TV drama that was 9/11
in any case, the whole reason why they are included in the drama,
is just that drama, the intent is to raise an emotionally charged issue,
so that people can be distracted from examining the real evidence of
the false flag attack.

 

Yeah,Riiiiiiiiiiiight,honestly,how can you still believe that?

 

Her personal effects were returned to her family. She boarded the plane. The plane was tracked by RADAR into the Pentagon. The wreckage of the plane was found inside the Pentagon INCLUDING her DNA and personal items.

She died in the crash of AA77. That is a fact. To spew fantasies about her death is insensitive and cruel.

Are you next going to tell me that she and her family are in on it, too?

 

So based on the fact that you believe that NOTHING can be trusted because anyone can fake any evidence, what are you basing your belief that it was a controlled demolition upon?

 

The major piece of evidence is the record of the "collapse" events for WTC1,2 & 7, the video record + the multitude of photographs of the scene, post "collapse" tell the story very well, and the fact that both towers were completely destroyed
( or 99% destroyed for the nit pickers ) The NIST report on the subject states that "Total Collapse" was inevitable after collapse initiation. HOWEVER, a real examination of the conditions present would reveal that "total collapse" should be the least likely outcome of all possible scenarios.

 

Explain to me how her DNA and personal effects were recovered at the Pentagon, Bob. I want sources for your claims on this one. Stop dodging.

 

genericBob,

What physical evidence are you using to support your claim that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition due to explosives? All you have provided here is your objective opinion supported by NOTHING.

I can break this down into the following. The buildings were completely destroyed by:

1. Impact damage, fire damage, gravity
2. Explosives
3. Nukes
4. Space beam
5. Thermite

One of the above is true and the others are not. You can sit there all you like and claim it LOOKS like one or the other, but until you provide physical evidence and/or calculations to prove your theory, you'll continue to have nothing. The gravity driven collapse scenarios have MUCH more supporting evidence than the others. Nobody from the truther community has come forward to prove anything incorrect about the gravity driven collapse nor have they come forward with anything resembling a coherent alternative complete with their own calculations.

 

Classic gambit .... if I can't tell you exactly what kind of explosive was used, then all bets are off and it must have been radical Arabs flying hijacked airliners.....

oh well .....

 

No, that's not what I said geneicBob.

I didn't ask you to tell me exactly what kind of explosives were used. I asked you to provide supporting evidence for your beliefs of controlled demolition. You can't just say "because the probability of" or "the odds of" when you have no physical or mathematical evidence to support those odds.

Sorry, but that's the way it goes.

You have absolutely no supporting evidence as to why you think things happened they way you think they did other than probability.

That's just crazy.

 

Can you explain the lack of energy transfer in the case of the buildings that "collapsed" on 9/11/2001? where is the jolt? this does not require pages of numbers to see, its very basic and very much key to understanding what happened.

 

What kind of 'jolt' are you talking about? The energy transfer was in the top 15 stories breaking through the one. And then 16 stories of mass breaking through one. and so one. Define why there should be a 'jolt'.

If I drop a bowling ball through a glass table top, what kind of 'jolt' should i expect to see?

 

WHY SHOULD THERE BE A JOLT?

You are providing NOTHING to support your position that there should be?

 

A 'clunkety-clunk',At least according to Sofia Shafquat....

 

That's about 2% of the population. Not really a reliable stat to base and assumption that ...'somethings wrong with what we are told about 9/11'......

 

Closer to .002%

 

There was some sort of "king of geeks" tv game show on
and the episode that was featured by the 9/11 truth faction
was involving a tower made of horizontal panes of glass and
the idea was that a weight was to be dropped onto the top pane,
and the geeks were assigned the task to figure out how many panes
of glass would be broken before the weight stopped.
the lesson in this is that the weight did indeed break some of the glass.
I think it stopped at 5 or 6 panes but it indeed did stop, this clearly indicates
that the weight was decelerating from the very start.

do you get the physics of the bit where the downward motion is seen to accelerate as its breaking up structure, pulverizing huge quantities of material
and ejecting said material out the sides of the tower?

The ONLY way to accomplish this is to have an additional source of energy.