7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

I havent seen credible information about that.

 

Tbh thats no real discussion, I just reflect the lame trolling arguments.

 

Yes, YOU insist on believing the lie! Do tell us how all these civilians hostages were taken?

 

You should try reading some then.

 

Thats exactly what you should do instead when its about the mass rapes of the Hamas.

 

You might want to look into the sexual abuse against Palestinian children being inflicted by the IDF as well. There have been atrocities committed by both sides, though right now Israel is inflicting by far the worst.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupi...p-child-hostages-and-child-detainees-released

Here is an old report, to show you this **** has been going on a long time:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-rep...as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/

 

Which is what I've done and am trying to explain but you don't want to hear it because it contradicts the mainstream lies and narrative pumped by the MIC so they can sell more weapons and get even more powerful so they can invade China and Russia

 

Not with Hellfire missiles, Apache helicopters, and Merkava's.

 

Maayan Sherman claims her son, a hostage taken on October 7,was poisoned by IDF gas bomb, blaming government
By EMANUEL FABIAN and MICHAEL HOROVITZ -timesofisrsel.

 

"Sherman’s mother, Dr. Maayan Sherman, a veterinarian, claimed that the results of the report suggested he was murdered by poison gas allegedly used by the IDF in the tunnels, accusing the government of knowingly putting the hostages at risk."


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-s.... Maayan Sherman,putting the hostages at risk.

Uh huh.....

 

I'll take the words of a mother on her child's death then that of habitual liars and murderers (Israeli govt)

 

She's a veterinarian. She's not a medical doctor with a PhD.

She's not qualified to make such a claim about the cause of death of a human being.

Did she examine the body? Perform an autopsy?

 

What this episode is showing is Jewish ppl (relatives and eye witnesses no less) speaking out against the IDF and how they have been killing hostages.

 

Hostages often die when people try to rescue them.

Happens all the time.

 

When you kill the hostage, it's not a rescue. Even little children understand that.

 

If you are chasing a car and inside the car is a kidnap victim, and you shoot at the kidnappers to try to stop them and accidentally shoot the hostage, you are not guilty of murder.

if I am being kidnapped, I want the police to try to kill the people kidnapping me.

 

IDF haven't even rescued one person yet, the one chance they had, the military commander, probably a teenager, decided to shoot them.

 

Ok so using this hypothetical, imagine how your mother would feel if the car crashed and you ran out of the car towards police and police shot you dead...

 

That would be a violation of SOP.

 

You are guilty of manslaughter. This is why people don't ever shoot at cars with a kidnap victim.

 

Not the IOF SOP.

 

The Israeli army said it was unable to confirm the causes of the deaths of three Israeli hostages in Gaza, amid accusations by one captive's mother that he was poisoned during combat operations.

Israel repatriated the bodies of soldiers Ron Sherman and Nik Beizer, and French-Israeli civilian Elia Toledano, from Gaza in December, and initially claimed the hostages were killed by Hamas.

However, Maayan Sherman, mother of Ron, accused the Israeli army of poisoning her son.

“We were told that there is a reasonable possibility that he inhaled toxic gases from the IDF bombs,” she wrote on Facebook.

The Israeli army says it does not know how the men died.
“At this stage it cannot be denied nor confirmed that they were killed due to strangulation, suffocation, poisoning, or as the result of an IDF attack or Hamas operation,” the army said in a statement.

The army said it found the bodies of the abductees in a Hamas tunnel in Jabaliya, near the site where Ahmed Jarandor, commander of Hamas’ northern brigade, had been killed a month earlier.

It claimed that it was not aware of the hostages’ location when they struck the tunnel Jarandor was in.

Mask of lies
Maayan disputes this claim, saying army Major General Rasan Alian told her they were aware of her son’s location at any given moment.

She called the army’s latest statement “another lie in the mask of lies”. -

middleasteye.com

 

Israel’s leadership needs more dead Israelis to keep up the outrage of their people. It is crazy the level of propaganda shoved down the throats of the Israelis, as well as the lack of free speech they have right now. I feel sorry for the Israeli people. They have been lead down a dark path by their bloodthirsty masters. I hope that somehow healing is able to occur between the Israelis and Palestinians when this is all over. It is going to be difficult.

On another note, regarding Israeli deaths at the hands of Israelis, I heard a story saying that friendly fire casualties in Gaza among IDF soldiers accounted for roughly 20% of their total casualties. That is very high. I don’t know if they are just incompetent or what. The whole strategy from day one has been a disaster, for both Israelis and Palestinians.

 

as always, a wise and reasonable comment from Josh, thank you.
Israelis as fighters is a misnomer. Look at boxing or MMA as a perfect example, never had a champ.

 

Israel continuing their quest to start WW3 by bombing Damascus killing Syrians and Iranian guards