7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Esau

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    The accounts of the only two survivors of the hostage-taking incident in Be'eri on October 7 give the impression that the Israel Defense Forces employed the so-called Hannibal Directive with the people being held hostage by Hamas inside one of the houses on the kibbutz. - haaretz
     
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    Hamas did the killings
     
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    The IDF killed more Israelis than they killed Hamas on 7th-10th October.
     
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    Yes, they killed some IDF but the majority of the civilian deaths appear to be from when hamas piled them all into cars and headed for Gaza only for the IDF Apaches to be ordered to stop the kidnappings at any cost. Everyone died.
     
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    Possibly. Although bodies at the scenes were so badly burnt that Israel was unable to identify
     
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    Proof?
     
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    At midday on 7 October Israel’s supreme military command ordered all units to prevent the capture of Israeli citizens “at any cost” – even by firing on them.

    The military “instructed all its fighting units to perform the Hannibal Directive in practice, although it did so without stating that name explicitly,” Israeli journalists revealed last weekend.

    The revelations came in a new investigative article by Ronen Bergman and Yoav Zitun, two journalists with extensive sources inside Israel’s military and intelligence establishment.

    They also revealed that “some 70 vehicles” driven by Palestinian fighters returning to Gaza were blown up by Israeli helicopter gunships, drones or tanks.

    That's from ynet (Israel's biggest news outlet) and electronic intifada, which has a prominent Jewish producer.
     
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    Hamas already posted the self incriminating videos. So your nonsense is limp. They deserve what has come and is still coming.
     
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    It doesn't say how many were killed. The IDF knows what it is doing. And they don't cower in hospitals or schools.
     
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    What videos?
     
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    But will you admit that IDF won't hesitate at killing Israelis?
     
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    The day of. Of them knocking down the Israeli border fence and pouring in, of them flying over the fence in one man motorized gliders, of them shooting festival goers, of jamming roads and shooting travelers in cars, of them taking hostages and beating them, of them killing homeowners in their own yards, of them shooting family pets, of voice recordings of them calling their Parents and bragging about how many Jews they killed and their Parents praising Allah for it. How can you not aware of any of this? Have you not heard the many testimonies of Israeli survivors of the massacre in their neighborhoods.
     
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    I'm not sure what videos you're referring to. Sounds like made up propaganda to me. Do you have any primary sources, is is it just hearsay?
     
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    Hamas videoed them and they found their way online. I don't believe your feigned ignorance of them.
     
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    Videoed them doing what, killing pet animals?

    Smh, oh the horror.
    American kill animals for fun every day.
     
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    Videoed them doing what, killing pet animals?

    Smh, oh the horror.
    American kill animals for fun every day.
     
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    Are you actually going to back up your smears or just play games?

    You're going down a rabbit hole into Israeli fantasy land of lies and blood libels.
     
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    I don't know what you think you are proving by denying reality. The only hole I see is deep. Good luck down there.
     
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    Your reality is made up Israeli propaganda, prove me wrong.

    You can't and won't, evidently..so this discussion is finished, note that iAlways end this lie, every time. Stick to topics youre invested in because clearly this isn't the one.
     
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    Delete
     
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    Well, Hamas kills civilians for one reason. Because they are Jews and only because they are Jews. The only bright side is the fact that Jews have become very adept at defending themselves. Hamas has become adept at using the Jews humanity against them. When Jews bought the land at highly inflated prices and made the desert bloom the Arabs thought they were cheated and declared war....and have been fighting from then till now. Even though the Quran says that the land belongs to Israel.
     
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    I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with Israelis being liars.

    Can the hasbara for once post on topic instead of this constant DERAILING!
     
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    I can just deny everything as others have done.
     
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    That's GRATE.
     

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