8/hr won't keep the lights on

I am sure there are just as many people for any other job in any other field. There are billions of people and fewer fields.
You know (off topic I know...) ... Jenna Marbles has a Masters Degree in Applied Science, she is now a youtube star. That is her job, making youtube videos of herself blabbing on. When she has a Master's Degree. I mean, wtf? She has a Master's Degree! And she works by vlogging stupid stuff like her dogs.

A Masters Degree wasted on youtube 0.o

Back on topic...
I was in a class of 30 other students when I went to college. Most of them my age but there were a few 40 year olds trying college again in Cass City, MI.
I mean these people just learned to use a computer. I would be lying if I told you I didn't know that I would be competing with hundreds and thousands of other designers.
I mean, I was in the boons and there were other designers than myself.
How foolish would I have to be to not know what the competition would be like?

 

Wages have to be kept down if we are ever to get some of those millions of those Middle Class jobs back we sent to China, India and Mexico. Some are coming back already as wages go up over there and shipping costs keep rising. We got rid of most of our factories and in their place we have low paying service jobs. Things will eventually change, but it will take time to bring their wages up high enough. They don't have to get the same as ours, as transportation cost will help make up some of the difference. Ross Parrot warned us it would happen and he was right.

 

you dont understand how inflation works...try reading up on it or take an economics class in college...and maybe you will see how your party is lying to you...and why it is hurting everyone...

 

Hello. You raise wages cost go up. I own my own business. You force me to raise wages I will increase my prices. It's not that hard to figure out people

 

That was union with a schedule of raises with time in service that were almost guaranteed.

 

You won't raise your prices if consumers can't afford the increase … in that case you will just settle for less … oh, and welcome to capitalism, by the way. But don't worry, it won't all happen at once, your lifestyle will just gradually decline. Now, I hope you have a wonderful evening.

 

*Gasp* Fair labor and fair wages! I am in a right to work state, no unions here. They need to raise the minimum wage.

 

Hello. I need to make a certain amount to keep the doors open. You want me to pay my taxes don't you? If my cost go up I have to pass them on. If not doors shut. People lose jobs. Wake the hell up.

 

There are very little empirical examples of that.

Even the current economic downturn is an example of that...

 

I know a lot of successful designers. Although not too many 'print' designers anymore, mostly web designers now. I'm a print designer. Web design will remain with us, but the need for coding isn't in as much demand anymore. I design sites in Photoshop, uncoded. The client uses either a coding service or their webmaster takes care of it. Pretty sweet for me. Pure creativity. Seriously though, take a look at some of those sites. Crowdspring is one. But let me warn you, you'd best know how to prepare files accurately or they'll throw them back at you. You must understand trapping, bleed, ink density, color space and resolution.
Again, good luck.

 

and how does your state determine on what to raise the wage....? THE INFLATION RATE.... which dems are saying is just 1.2% a year....get it now?....

 

Can you make other adjustments in your business? Maybe purchase raw materials in larger quantities at reduced prices. Or join a buying group. Anything you can do to make your employees more productive? Take a hard look at your marketing and advertizing costs. Shipping, packaging, anything to streamline?

 

How about no! Need large amounts of working capital to purchase large amounts of product. If I purchase large amounts and the price goes down while I'm sitting on the copper I will lose money and be at a disadvantage to my competitors.
How about this idea. Work hard get paid more. It's that easy

 

Small business owners have been through the worst recession since the Great Depression. I think those who've survived are pretty cost efficient.

Telling a book store or music store owner to save a few cents by buying more product is not realistic. We're not talking about corporations here. We're talking about small business owners few employees. You're demands may not have the effect you intend. The road of unintended consequences, ya know.

http://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/FAQ_Sept_2012.pdf

Note the stats on how many small businesses fail each year. Demands they provide more insurance, higher wages and other benefits have a good probability of seeing more fail. Something the Corporations would love to see! How does it feel to be a tool of the Corporations?

 

1. The average hourly wage for full time Wal Mart associates (so that's excluding management) is $12.57, nationally. So I imagine they would pay above $10/hr.
2. If you think that there will be more opportunities to put your skill set to use in California, then contact Californian companies online. If your skills are really needed - in high demand - and relocation costs are getting in the way, many companies will advance pay to help cover the costs. Some will even just pay them for you outright.

8/hr=600/mo? You should be making more than double that if you're working full time at $8/hr.

I'd recommend trying to get a full time job. But you should also try doing things that will utilize your skill set and build up your resume. Go on craigslist and advertise your work for freelance. You could even offer work as a photographer try to use your skill set to enhance what you offer customers in that line of work.

But really, it's not a bad idea. I've actually used craigslist to commission artists, no reason why you can't use it to get commissions. Or advertise yourself in other ways.

 

I don't see what was wrong with my first suggestion, which was getting a job that pays more than a graphic designer.

 

No, we'll get to it now. Personal attacks lose. You have lost.

I support your right to follow the teachings of crackpots if you so choose. However freedom of choice does not entitle you to use name-calling as a cudgel against people with more life experience and common sense than you. Bad behavior is not a valid substitute for sound logic. Now go away.

 

$22/hr. is definitely low for such a tough and hazardous job! I'm surprised; I expected it to be at least $100/hr. OTOH, if they give you a living allowance, at least the excessive rental fees aren't a company scam to rob you of the advertised wage.

I suppose the rental agencies have a sweet deal for themselves. I'd much rather be a landlord there, and enjoy massive returns on a modest investment, and skip the hard work! Do they have facilities for workers with mobile homes? That could be one way to have a home worth coming home to...

 

Welcome to the real world - what you are experiencing is not new. People start out on the bottom and work their way up. My parents did it, I did it, my children did it. Its not easy, and its never been easy.

But I won't tell you to get a second job, etc.

I will say that kids (and a lot of others) today are weak and spoiled. They think they deserve an easy life - they call it a "living wage", but what they really mean is that they don't want to work hard or sacrifice. Success isn't given, its earned.

 

sadly most owners are greedy as you are.

I don't buy for a minute you own a business just scraping by, that a moderate pay increase would hurt you.

decades ago owners made a nice life, yet wages and taxes were higher. they worked their business for decades to retire comfortable.

today owners all want instant wealth, biggest profit possible even if it means it comes at the expense of their employees.

if you can't pay 12 a hr, you likely have no business being in business.

 

I'm not sure how anyone's expectations are relevant. Work isn't a video game where we can make value appear as needed to get the result we all want. Work is creating value. If the only work you can do doesn't produce enough value for you to live on, that's a bad thing.

If you were in the mountains and you could not catch enough fish or grow enough corn or otherwise not do enough work to live on... that would also be a bad thing.

No ones expectations would change either bad thing.

What are your options? Well you really have only two that I see: starve or ask for help. And charity is a good thing. Because of bad luck or bad choices people often find themselves in a hard place and we're not in the mountains, so we can and should help each other in tight spots. You might want to hook up with a church or government program that can provide that charity while you're trying to figure out how to change your life. How to get to a point where you can support yourself. That's a reasonable thing to do.

What wouldn't be reasonable is continuing to do the same thing and expecting your boss to just make up the difference. That would be putting the burden of the charity you need on him unfairly. And it would be hiding that bad thing so it just get's worse instead of better.




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$22/hr is the average wage for the city. Starting wage on the rigs themselves is minimum $25/hr. The man camps are full of people working for all sorts of companies in the area often times only the higher wage earners live in them for as low as 7 days on 7 days off. Some guys do a full 31 days on and 7 off if they really want to cash out quickly. There are no mobile home facilities, but I've heard of farmers renting out land to people with mobile homes. The housing market is pretty crazy too, most homes are going for around $200,000 or more. You can't even get a lot for less than $100,000.

 

Not true. I used to be a full time graphic designer. I make more as a media relations person with GD skills, but still...well over 50k when I was only designing.

 

In your ignorance you called me ignorant first. I was just pointing out that I am not the ignoramus, the ignoramus is you.

More name-calling from you … check. Henry George just happened to be that master at pointing out landowner parasitism, and that is why I refer to him as often as I do. Others who understood economics also found him informative. Maybe you can learn from them.

"In my opinion the least bad tax is the property tax on the unimproved value of land, the Henry George argument of many, many years ago." — Milton Friedman, Nobel laureate in Economics (1976)

"Not only was Henry George correct that a tax on land is non-distortionary, but in an equilibrium society ... tax on land raises just enough revenue to finance the (optimally chosen) level of government expenditure." – Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel laureate in Economics (2001)

"We ought to tax all idle land the way Henry George said — tax it heavily so that its owners have to make it productive." — Henry Ford (1863 – 1947)

"Men like Henry George are rare, unfortunately. One cannot imagine a more beautiful combination of intellectual keenness, artistic form, and fervent love of justice. Every line is written as if for our generation." — Albert Einstein (1879 – 1955)

"If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer a third alternative - the possibility of sanity. Economics would be decentralist and Henry Georgian" — Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963), English novelist and essayist in his preface to the second edition of "Brave New World," 15 years after the first.

"Henry George showed us . . . the only organic solution of the land problem. . . " — Frank Lloyd Wright (1869 - 1959), in The Living City (195

You are projecting your faults and bad behavior onto me … that is typical and expected.

 

So basically impose communism? No thank you.

Yes there is a reason the price keeps going up, the world economy around us is changing, and surely enough our 17 Trillion+ debt has made our dollar decline in value drastically. The problem is we are still living on wages that are not attuned for the economy and we can't attune the prices or else hyper-inflation will occur.

Soon enough we won't be worrying about this, once other countries begin to dump the petrodollar America will revert to a manufacturing country and we'll see where it go's from there.

There is a reason.