89% Vaccinated, Cases Surging

Same demographic? What do you mean by that?

 

Older with morbidities.

 

Sure, its just that the vaccinated are far less likely to die than the unvaccinated.

 

"Recovered immunity", as I typed out those words, refers to a person who (1) has not received a COVID vaccine, (2) was infected with COVID, recovered, and was later re-infected, and (3) subsequently transmitted COVID to another person.

The CDC has no records of this ever occurring.

 

Which is not very apparent for the Delta variant. Sure for the Alpha which it was designed for and in fact those vaccinated may actually be more susceptible to the Delta.

 

Where are you getting this from?

 

Doctors, papers, and evidence. Not something you will see allowed on social media or the MSM.

 

It is very apparent in both cases, and now there is a new variant in UK and the vaccine works on that too.

 

Must explain why so may vaccinated are ending up in hospitals with the Delta variant.

 

*LOL*

 

I know, no evidence needed for your true belief.

 

My case happened just a short two months after vaccination. These people it may have been longer after their vaccination. It’s proven that the vaccine loses its effectiveness over time. Which is why they are going to start that booster shot stuff.

So who knows. It very well could be that they had been exposed to it longer after they took the vaccination.

 

Personally, I think the medical professionals are all wrong about the shots waning over time. Yes, there is so called evidence of this but the evidence is tainted by facts with variables. Therefore, the "facts" may not be as they appear. What I mean is that we started out many months ago with the original variants and people started getting their shots. The shots seemed more effective against those original variants but as the Delta variant became more and more common, the vaccines began to "wane" in effectiveness, until we are where we are now with the huge majority of the country being infected with the Delta variant and the vaccines appear to have lost their "effectiveness", with boosters needed.

It is my opinion that as time went on, the facts showing vaccine effectiveness became more and more numbered with cases of the Delta variant. It wasn't really a case of the vaccine's effectiveness waning over time but a case of the Delta variant becoming the main variant as time went on and the vaccines don't work as well against the Delta variant. I believe if you took the data from this whole time and filtered it for what patient had what variant (impossible to do because in probably most cases, the particular variant is not known) then you would find that it is the Delta variant which the vaccines don't work so well against, not a case of the vaccine's effectiveness waning.

If I am correct, the vaccines would still be fairly effective against the original variants regarding the spread of the virus and booster shots wouldn't even be necessary. But, even if the vaccines don't work so well against the spread of the Delta variant, they do seem to work remarkably well at greatly reducing hospitalizations and deaths, even though they do little regarding the spread of the Delta variant. All of this is just my personal opinion and there is no way I could prove I was correct regarding my opinions on the waning effectiveness of the vaccines merely being due to a greater and greater increase of the data numbers of the people infected with the Delta variant.

 

You may be right. This is in large part to why I don’t believe in mandates at all. I think people can make their own decisions based on the facts they are presented just as you just shown. I’m okay with whatever take you have. My take is just a little different, I do believe they work and boosters may be necessary. I recently know 1 person who died and was vaccinated, I know of another who died but I do not know what his vaccination status was.

 

Who are these "doctors"? Which "papers" prove your seemingly absurd claims? What's the other "evidence" you referred to?

It sounds like you just made it up.

 

Not my problem you don't read outside the 'official' bubble.

 

you can check Johns Hopkins data, patterns of the spikes are almost exactly the same.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

 

I just got my booster shot. I have no delusions that I won't get Covid or spread Covid but, if I do get it, I'm hoping the booster will make my case milder.

 

What is point of vaccination then? No one is going to get shot every month, even if it is available.
We just have to look at the reality.
The Coronavirus was here for thousands of years and will be here for thousands of years.
Yes some mutations cause severe adverse reaction about 25% of people have it.
Yes people are going to die, no matter what, vaccines or masks have zero help.
There is no need to implement totalitarian regime.

 

Then why do I know 9 who've died from the shot? Why are they now suddenly dead, when I who has taken no clot shot, am still kicking, healthy as ever?