9/11 Documentaries to fill in the gaps.

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  1. cjnewson88

    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to share these 3 documentaries, which I personally believe are the most informative and accurate of 911 documentaries. Watching all three of these should fill in a lot of gaps for those who still do not know the back story to the 9/11 Attacks.

    The Secrete History of 911
    This documentary gives the back story to the attacks, including the vast intelligence failure, which led to 911 not being prevented.
    [video=youtube;MVh9WgGxuIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVh9WgGxuIY[/video]

    911 Inside The Hamburg Cell
    This documentary gives the back story to the hijackers involved in the 911 attacks, their background, their plans.
    [video=youtube;xgLwu2FhfDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLwu2FhfDM[/video]

    911 The Lost Tapes
    This documentary gives an insight into the military defense and civil aviation chaos which occurred during those vital minutes of 911
    [video=youtube;P4Tj4XN6U_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Tj4XN6U_w[/video]
     
  2. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    considering they are YOUR edited versions that your boss keeps sending you here to post and you have had your arse handed to you on a platter by myself and others failing miserably in your desperate and pathetic attempts to try and debunk anything especially with those blatant lies you and your boss came up with for koko's video on his thread and in every debate you have gotten in with truthers since you been here, you have to move on to NEW failed attempt they will take you to the cleaners on again I see. hee hee:-D

    Boy your boss pays you well to embarrass and humiliate yourself here constantly everyday I see.:lol:
     
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    Scott Well-Known Member

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    "Secret History" is chilling in its facts, if a bit melodramatic in presentation.

    Haven't seen the others, yet.
     
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    thank you.yeah if americans and the world wants to learn the truth about 9/11,they'll find it in THESE documentarys YOU listed.they wont find it any any of the ones he listed.just debunked fairy tales which your documentarys debunk.:clapping::applause::worship::nod::clap:
     
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    You are quite the little cheerleader, aren't you?

    Tell us: what specifically is in error in the documentaries CJ posted?
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    I did a debunking of 9/11 mysteries a couple of years ago. Here, it only takes 50 seconds :smile::roflol:

    [video=youtube;z6QdZVp3wg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6QdZVp3wg4[/video]
     
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    Jango New Member

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    cjnewson88,

    Have you viewed all available radar data? Like the radar data from the 84th Radar Evaluation Squadron?
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    I actually have all the 84RADES data downloaded on my computer. I suffer from having limited access to a Windows XP machine to run the RS3 program and amateur usage, however I contact John Farmer once or twice for help how to run and work it. He's done a lot more with it than I could ever do, and knows it inside out.
     
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    Okay. Well, I only know of its existence from 9/11 Intercepted. From what I viewed, it confirmed the "fake blips" on radar thing. Some, I perceive, would think that they're not fake blips, but actually planes intersecting each other. Have you seen this?
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Not that I have seen, but then I do not think it would show even if there were simulated blips. The 84RADES data is taken from multiple civilian and military sites, raw and filtered inputs. The raw data shows everything, from birds to interference, and can be rather messy. The filtered data is what is shown on ATC screens. Both come direct from the sites, so I cannot see how simulated blips for a military exercise would be shown in the raw data, or on ATC scopes. As far as I am aware, the simulated blips were software only which 'may' have appeared on some of NEADS scopes sometime between 0900 and 0930. The only way we know this is due to around 0930 we hear the MCC at NEADS telling people to 'turn the sim switches off, get that crap out of here'. Now, whether the sim switches were placing simulated targets on some of NEADS scopes, or simply filling peoples screens with other types of erroneous data, is unknown. But either way the RADES data would not, and as far as I am aware, does not show simulated blips.

    There are tagged targets which do in fact 'intercept' (I use that term very loosely) on the scopes shown in that P4T film. They are in fact regular traffic, either going about its regular track, or being turned around by ATC. If you listen to the Cleveland ATC audio for UA93 for example, the controller spends 10 or so minutes turning aircraft around and redirecting them, either to get them out of the way of the turning UA93, or move them around for a better eye on. The ATC controller's for New York did a similar thing for UA175 when it was turning towards Manhattan. You can listen to them on my flight reconstructions if needed.

    One thing that needs to be taken into account here is that P4T do two very clever things. First, they inflate the size of the radar targets. This gives the impression that they come much closer to each other than they actually do, when in reality they could still be 5 or more miles away. The other, is that they give the impression the aircraft are operating in a two dimensional environment. Although paths may appear to be close to each other, remember that altitude wise, they could be 3,000, 5,000, or even 10,000+ feet apart through height separation. I call this clever. John Farmer calls it fraudulent. He did a coupe of .gif's over on a JREF thread I'll link below taken from his 84RADES data, which shows just how far the aircraft were away from each other.

    Link.

    Edit: for example, here is a quote from John's data -

    "Could it be that you are suggesting UAL93 and UAL175 "swapped"? I ran the numbers on that as well. They never came closer than 15 nautical miles in 2D separation, but they were also separated by ~12,000 feet in altitude."
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    For example, here is the alleged 'interception plane swap' of UA175 and UA93, produced by John;

    [video=youtube;v8xADinFlpk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xADinFlpk[/video]
     
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    I didn't interpret it that way, no. But it does appear that there were fake blips on radar screens on the morning of 9/11, which, IIRC, was a part of a War Game scenario.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    It would appear so. There was a drill running involving Russian Tu-95's coming in over the top, which may have placed sims on some of NEADS scopes. Again, the only evidence we have that there may have been simulated targets on their scopes is the 'turn that crap off' call by the MCC at around 0930. Also remember any simulated targets would only show on the scopes of NEADS, not civilian ATC systems.
     
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    Got evidence?
     
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    Trying to sell Sophia Shafquat's 9/11 Mysteries. The mere maunderings of an obvious psychotic who brain goes "clunkety-clunk" when she tries to think. Worthless.

    Not really. Same old crew of psychos and Nazis and assorted nuts and flakes.
     
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    She also makes great use of the torch-cut columns as proof of thermite. Total whackjob and not a bit bright.
     
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    Pilots for 9/11 Truth provided radar data from the 84th Radar Evaluation Squadron which shows the fake blips in 9/11 Intercepted.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Did they? Can you link the part of '911 Intercepted' which goes into it?
     
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    Sure.

    They talk about it at 1:44 and then 17:34.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    This is what I'm looking at. Is it the right one? I'm skipping to the times you suggest, can't seem to see anything about fake tracks.
     
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    Yeah.

    At 1:44, they mention the 84th Radar Evaluation Squadron, and then, at 17:34, they show all those blips intersecting each other (which I presume to be fake blips).
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Ah right, no they are actual aircraft, not simulated blips.
     
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    Huh... (scratches head in confusion)
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Which part? I'll do my best to explain.
     

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