9/11 Physics: "You Can't Use Common Sense"

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    The quantity does NOT need to be known,it's irrelevant
     
  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's already been shown that you wouldn't know what to do with it if you had it.
     
  3. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The kicker is that it is known.

    Psi has based this claim on a PDF search of the NIST report using terms he expects to be in the report.

    He's never actually read it.
     
  4. PPP

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    Actually he was simplifying what the 911 commission backers, truly believe........

    The posters who are calling him an idiot, in this thread,are the very ones who believe his theory and do not even realize it.....
     
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    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    I never claimed to have read the whole thing. It is only 10,000 pages. In fact I have said reading the whole thing is stupid. But the really funny thing about doing searches is that you find they cut and pasted entire paragraphs in multiple places. I wonder how long it would be if all of the redundancy was eliminated.

    But what has stopped you or anyone else from specifying the total amount of concrete in the towers and told us where the NIST provides that information since I have been saying it ain't there for years.

    Haven't you had enough time to find it?

    psik
     
  6. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    You are always CLAIMING something was shown. Go play with Euler again.

    Or build a self supporting physical model that can be completely collapsed by its top 15% while damaging its supports. What engineering schools has done that yet?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT4BXIpdIdo

    If they do this in California

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzVvd4Dk6sw

    They can afford to build collapse test models much bigger than mine.

    Of course they will have a problem if they can't make one collapse. Maybe that is reason not to try. So much silence on this subject for official sources in engineering schools.

    Do you have a problem with doing Experiments in SCIENCE?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRUso7Nf3s

    psik
     
  7. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never claimed you did. I just think it's sad that you've spent so much time trashing a document you've never read.

    What does the number of pages have to do with anything? Is that too much for you to read in 8 years? 5 pages a day and you'd have been done with it 3 years ago.

    And I have in fact said that trashing the authors and content of a document you haven't read is stupid.

    Why is the length such an issue for you?

    What would you do with it if you knew it?
     
  8. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, it's definitely not the fact that no one in the professional, educated world could give 2 (*)(*)(*)(*)s less about the truth movement. That's part of the problem, truthers think people are actually listening. For the most part, no one cares about the truth movement. It's a non-factor in society, and most people just choose to ignore the fact it exists all together.

    It's like Kennedy Assassination, moon landings, flat earth, creationalists, etc. No one cares, it's fun to come and debate. Maybe get a little chuckle. Hell, for me it's a great way to kill downtime at work in between meetings.

    However, if you are under the impression that 95% of the world gives the Truth movement anything more than a laugh in transit you're just wrong
     
  9. cjm2003ca

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    the building standards for new York is a major part of the problem..they dont come close to what we use in California..if you wanted to knock it down with explosives all you had to do was take out the first floor and the whole building would have collapsed right away..no one is dumb enough to rig explosives to start from the top floors and work down..
     
  10. PPP

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    If this were true.........

    If a demolition company had a contract to implode a 110 story skyscraper,

    They would just wire 6 stories (from the 93rd to the 99th floor) with enough explosives to turn these floors into instant rubble .....

    Press the button then watch the entire building fall in on itself between 10 to 13 seconds.............

    They would save superior amounts of $$$ in the process...........

    If this kind of demolition were possible,they would be practicing it today............
     
  11. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People can read for themselves. Don't take my word for it. Read it.

    Every engineering school has done that.

    Your problem is that they didn't build a physical model that you can reproduce out of stuff you found in a hardware store. Of course, the limitations of physical models and scale has been explained to you too. Why you still don't get it after so many years is one question I have no answer for.
     
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    why implode the 93rd floor? take out the base floor..first floor..guess what ?it will fall down fast
     
  13. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, all the superior savings would then be spent repairing all the buildings within a 2 block radius.

    [​IMG]
     
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    My example was the north tower.......

    The aircraft flew almost straight toward the north tower, banked approximately 25 degrees to the left (i.e. the right wing elevated relative to the left wing) and descended at an angle of about 10 degrees at impact.

    Moving at about 440 mph, the nose hit the exterior of the tower at the 96th floor. The aircraft cut a gash that was over half the width of the building and extended from the 93rd floor to the 99th floor.

    This is what , caused the tower to eventually implode "according to NIST".......
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False. Maybe you should read the report.

    The structure absorbed the energy of the impact, and the shifted load was supported by the remaining intact structure. NIST does not claim the impact caused the building to "implode"

    Contrary to your claim, the building was found spread out over a 2 block radius.
     
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    The core was imploded while exterior was exploded which explains the 2 block radius.,...........

    THX for pointing that out..........

    A building falling in and out on itself by simple gravity, will not have the energy to throw parts of its exterior 2 blocks.......

    This is simply impossible.............
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? How much energy is required? Is it more than was released by the Hiroshima bomb? Because that's how much was involved.
     
  18. PPP

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    Gravity was the only energy involved.........
    What gave the tower the energy of the Hiroshima bomb?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Kinetic energy,junior.
     
  20. PPP

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    The kinetic energy of 15% of the building. had the power to pulverize simultaneously, the remaining 85%.............
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You've had over 11 years to prove that....you've failed.
     
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    I don't have to prove nothing to you.........

    I have no control over your Cognitive Dissonance,Avoidance, Denial, & Rationalization.............
     
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    All that baloney,and a double negative too...batting .1000 today,kid.
     
  24. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you answer my question first? How much energy do you think is required to match the pattern of debris?
     
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    Why did we not hear one single recording of such powerful explosive charges, and why did all of the exterior columns end up exactly where they would have had a mass of debris just caused the building to unzip itself?

    Had the tower cores been explosively demolished, those fire fighters who survived in stairwell B would have been killed by barotrauma.

    This is simply impossible.

    But then, I have never seen a little thying like science keep you from running your mouth like you thought you had some facts to work with.
     

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