9/11: What really happened on that day? (continued)

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    It's less than 2 weeks away from the 15th anniversary of 9/11 and we still haven't had any legitimate investigation into that terrorist massacre. And most of us know the reason for that, it's because the US government and the MIC rely heavily on the US government's fairy tale explanation to pursue their endless war agenda.

    And here are some of the many others who have refuted NIST's scam:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/458597-nist-9-11-scam-exposed-all-its-glory.html
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there have been MANY investigations.

    you simply disregard all of them, cause you don't like their findings.
     
  3. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about LEGITIMATE official investigations, not scams.

    I haven't disregarded a single one of them as you can see by the thread I created, they have all been analyzed quite thoroughly by many experts and exposed for what they really are. If I did disregard them as you falsely claim, the thread would not exist.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/458597-nist-9-11-scam-exposed-all-its-glory.html

    But if you like them and their "findings", that's quite ok with me.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    haha!!!!

    the investigations were done by some VERY smart people, with much better knowledge in architecture & engineering than we both have.

    but go ahead, disregard EVERY professional investigation into 9-11 that you don't like.

    :roflol:
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Coming up on the 15th anniversary, it's safe to say that anybody who does not understand the deception of 911 simply DOES NOT WANT to understand the deception. Cognitive dissonance in action. I know a few like that.

    Any person actually curious about it has known for years the events were staged.
     
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    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't go that far. However, I sincerely believe that the more a person knows about the events leading up to 9/11, as well as the events during that day and after it, the less likely it is that a person will believe the official story.
     
  7. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    That's correct, except none of the official ones qualify as investigations so in fact there were none. However they were not smart enough to scam their peers so they were caught in their own BS, as the thread reveals in vivid detail. Here's just one glaring example:

    [video=youtube;Rkp-4sm5Ypc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkp-4sm5Ypc[/video]

    It doesn't really take an expert in any particular discipline to see and understand the scam though. Anyone with any reasonable amount of intelligence can readily see the hoax. I haven't read any post from you that challenges anything in the thread in technical detail, denial of the facts isn't it.

    Show me one significant official "investigation" (to use the term you believe these were) or conclusion I've disregarded.
     
  8. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't go that far either as you can read in the many posts written in this section of the forum. For some, it doesn't matter how much they learn, they will always stick to the OCT verbatim.
     
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    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    I think anyone would agree that if something is true and someone knows enough about said something to ascertain this, they would believe that said something is true. Wouldn't you agree?
     
  10. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    You're right but as you can read here, the only truth for some of these posters is what the US government says is true, no matter what. At least that's what some of these posters are saying. What they actually believe may or may not be one and the same as what they post. One can't tell from some of these posters but I sense the more intelligent ones know the truth but have an agenda.
     
  11. Dale Smith

    Dale Smith New Member Past Donor

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    I haven't been here long enough to get vetted by the administrators but I would give your post a big time "thumbs up". I was one of those people that bought the official story and did so for 11 years. It was only by chance that I finally looked at evidence that put my beliefs to the test and it was strictly on a dare. I purposely avoided looking at anything that would skew my world view because the repercussions were too horrific to bear. Now that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, slam dunk, no two ways about it that only did certain rogue elements within this corporate entity that we know as "government" not only knew that this was going to happen, they made sure that it happened and then covered their ass 8 ways to Sunday. When the scales fell from my eyes and the reality and gravity of the situation hit me, I was sick....physically sick. I went a long time without being able to eat much and my sleep came in small increments. The feeling of betrayal was such that it would be like learning that your mom and dad were ax murdering maniacs that played loving parents by day but at night while you were asleep, they were scoping out victims.

    I dealt with the grief, I dealt with the realizations that everything I believed about this country was totally wrong so I started a quest for the real truth. I cancelled my cable subscription, took my TV to the curb and put a note on it "First Come, First Served" and I have never looked back. I have spent the last 4 plus years down loading documentaries and lectures not only about 9/11 but about other historical facts that we were never taught. I put them on my MP3 player and listen to them at work while occasionally jotting down notes of names and topics of what I was listening to so I could do a proper vetting of the information I was digesting when time permitted. I easily done over 17,000 hours of reading and researching the last 4 and a half years and I do this ten to twelve hours a day. I fall asleep reading a book I have downloaded. I was "chumped" once and I will not be fooled again.The desire to know the real truth of how we got to this place is a burning obsession. I stopped posting for a very long time until I felt confident enough to share what I have learned. I have done a lot of heavy lifting and I owe many thanks to those that did the heavy lifting so that I might learn and awake as to how things really are. I salute all of you that know deep down inside that we were lied to and I encourage you to never allow yourselves to be browbeaten by the naysayers. This corporate entity pays trolls to disrupt discussions and steer conversations away from the topic at hand. I will be posting much more as to what I have found and that includes a long list of crimes that were covered up by the events of 9/11 and the globalist elites that stood to gain the most. Hang on, it's gonna be quite a ride.
     
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    I haven't seen anyone say that here...

    What anyone here believes may or may not be the same as what they post. In general, we only have a given poster's word on the matter.

    I have had suspicions as well, but I've never seen any hard evidence. I think that as a general rule, it's best to simply assume that what people say they believe is what they actually believe. If I find inconsistencies in their beliefs, I'll simply point them out and see how they respond.
     
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    Perfect example of the anatomy of a conspiracy theory.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    No one is going to outright say that the only truth is what the US government says is true. It's what their posts imply.
     
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    Welcome to the forum and this section of the forum Dale. My awakening goes back to the JFK assassination and especially the Vietnam War (I've been around the block more than I care to). But as obvious as those incidents were, it still didn't occur to me that elements within the US government would actually pull off a 9/11 event. The pieces started falling into place for me about 3 years after 9/11 and I've been obsessively researching the subject nearly daily since. I've posted quite a bit of information in this and other forums and continue to post anything I feel that is significant as I learn it. There is always something new that pops up and it's important to share information and opinions.
     
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    You were further ahead of the curve than I was but I have more than made up for lost time. I have dedicated the last four and half years of my life seeking the truth with no pre-conceived notions or ideology involved. I have gone down the proverbial rabbit hole that veers off in so many directions. My passion has been deemed "obsessive" by those that know me best but they definitely want to know what I do. I have helped wake many people up to what is really going on. I like to be around like-minded thinking people that have the ability for critical thought because I can learn from them and hopefully I have something that they can use as well.
     
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    I believed in 9-11 Truth for a few months, back in 2003.

    then I started reading all the research that debunked the "debunkers", and I never looked back.

    Did Bush know about the attacks before hand and let it happen? maybe.

    but there were no explosives in the towers, the 19 Al Qaeda hijackers were real, and Osama bin Laden did it.


    the only question that remains: did our govt. let it happen?
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    If that's the only question for you the answer is incredibly obvious. But even if it's not obvious to you, let's say the US government did let it happen, then they have to be telling you lies about 9/11 by extension. I don't believe even you would question that. So if you believe the US government isn't lying, then it didn't let it happen by extension. The problem with the latter is that it took place with near perfection and the US government's alleged attempt at stopping it was a whimper at best and non-existent at worse. If you believe the most expensive state of the art defense system on the planet was incapable of mounting a defense against 19 men armed with box cutters then for you the US government didn't let it happen and told the truth about 9/11. For me that's a fairy tale for children that would be a hilarious joke if it wasn't about the massacre of 3,000 and tens of thousands more innocent people committed under pretext of 9/11.
     
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    We're being lied to about a lot of stuff. When the internet arrived, I studied the alternative version of a lot of issues and saw a lot of info that's censored in the mainstream.
    http://well-temperedforum.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9130004433/m/6371082656/p/1

    Americans are living in a bubble of alternate reality.
     
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    If the 19 hijackers were real and Osama was behind it then the real question is: who were they working for? I find it quite interesting that GHW Bush and a couple of OBLs brothers were busy down the street at the Carlile hotel setting up a war profiteering company deluxe while the attacks were being carried out. Just lucky I guess.
     
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    "Committed"? Who was committed?
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Is there something you don't understand about the US government?
     
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    Who do you say was committed?
     
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    Conspiracies are as common as elbows and ankles. :wink:
     
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    I think there's a language barrier here, I didn't say anyone was committed, I said the US government committed human rights atrocities (war crimes, including genocide, torture, indefinite detention, etc) under pretext of 9/11. This is well documented by sources that include the US government itself (Obama "we tortured some folks" and the US Senate) and unquestionable.
     

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