9/11CON - The Pentagon

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    everything
    knives and plane and missile = 3 items.
    a missile was used
    admitted
     
  2. Shinebox

    Shinebox Well-Known Member

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    yes, a plane was used as a missile … you win the internet …
     
  3. Shinebox

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    so now an airplane and a missile hit the Pentagon? Yeah, that makes sense ….
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    not my problem, its rummys admission, sorry.
     
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    can’t have a serious discussion here … I’m out …
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    How can anyone understand debunkers if they cant explain how they come to their conclusions?

    Thats an important part of a debate that to leave out creates huge gaps in getting to the bottom of things.

    Thats pretty serious!
     
  7. Betamax101

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    Read the above carefully - the casual viewers have all read it and fully appreciate logic and critical thinking.

    Luckily it's all been easily explained. Never mind if it's a bit too hard for you to understand. Maybe one of the others can help you.

    Such stunning irony. The "debunkers-of-batshit" await your response to the quoted and evaded posts. Fill in the "huge gaps"!
     
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  8. Kokomojojo

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    Game over!
    Rummy admitted there were missiles involved, nothing much more to argue about.
     
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    No he didn't.

    Do you understand that this works both ways? Are you afraid to properly answer the big post above?
     
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    Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, "and a" missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

    He is referring to "using a passenger jet" which logic denotes that he means AS something. Ergo a missile. Simple. I highlighted something that maybe you should pay attention to!

    Do you understand the mechanics of the English language? Are you now claiming it was an AA77 aircraft and a missile? Or are you going to discard the bits that don't fit in with this batshit?
     
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    Do you understand the mechanics of the English language? Are you now claiming it was an AA77 aircraft and a missile? Or are you going to discard the bits that don't fit in with this batshit?

    "AND" being asserted, means an American Airlines flight. Kindly confirm this is your claim.
     
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    The precise application remains to be proven.
    We do know a missile was involved.
     
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    But "Rummy" said so.

    Regarding the batshittery about a missile...Rumsfeld's misspoken statement....is your entire case. That is ALL your "evidence". Nothing else.

    Nope and you aren't a "we". The forum does know that you will grasp at the flimsiest of pathetic straws to assert a claim and conversely dismiss the same source for the actual object that struck the Pentagon. As stated an "American Airlines flight."
     
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    It was NOT AA77
     
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    but you refuse to look at the evidence that a 757 did indeed hit the Pentagon … why so selective with evidence? … confirmation bias maybe?
     
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    That's pretty much the same with every batshit conspiracy unfortunately. Have you noticed the desperation with a more or less duplicate thread on this entire subject!?

    9/11 Pentagon Attack Review - American 77 (therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com)
    "A full summary of all witness names and testimony is linked at the bottom of this section. The list was compiled by 9/11 researcher Mark Roberts, and lists well over 100 witnesses to this incident. The witnesses provided below form part of that list. Although some descriptions vary from "corporate jet" to more specific "American Airlines Boeing 757", the statements do not conflict. It just so happens some know more about aircraft than others. Some got a better view than others. One thing they all have in common is that they all saw a large aircraft hit the Pentagon. Not one saw a missile. Not one saw a drone. Not one saw anything other than an aircraft hit the Pentagon."

     
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    Gotta love the comedy "forensic evidence" crap being claimed on the echo-chamber thread. People witnessed the big plane. People picked up bits of the big plane around the plane sized hole. People on-board the plane died.

     
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    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
    "Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. “It was absolutely a plane, and I’ll tell you why,” says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC in Washington, D.C. “I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box.” Kilsheimer’s eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: “I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?”"
    [​IMG]

    Forensic evidence. Real stuff.
     
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    No it isn't. None of the photographed parts have been positively identified as belonging to 'Flight 77' by the matching of serial numbers.
     
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    Are you an expert in such matters? Planes do not have serial numbers linked to their air-frame registration number. You think somebody taps in all the numbers somewhere as they get fitted!? Hey, have you got any missile pieces? A piece of fuselage from an American Airlines plane, positively identified by people watching it pass and crash, that then ends up on the Pentagon lawn and you want to play some sort of game about serial numbers!?

    The Safety Board released its flight path, they found the black box. Loads of witnesses saw it, nobody saw a frickin' missile, dead body parts from the passengers were recovered, bits of uniform - it is kind of pathetic, 20+ years later we've got this insane claim still persisting.
    Flight_Path_Study_AA77.pdf (ntsb.gov)
    ATC_Report_AA77.pdf (ntsb.gov)
     
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    There is no evidence a 757 hit the Pentagon, and I've known that for many years. All the facts available show something much smaller hit the Pentagon.

    You peddle a narrative proved wrong decades ago.
     
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    Wrong
     
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    Footage of missile attack on Pentagon FINALLY RELEASED!


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/U3NGYntHcKPz/


    Clearly it was not a plane, let alone any type of a winged aircraft.
     
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