911 - Was Flight 77 an invisible inferno?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Ok sports fans looks like we have yet another glitch in the matrix.

    a woman by the name of April Gallop along with several other people was only 35 feet from the alleged impact of flt 77 and even though they were blown across the room and out of the chairs etc NONE of them were covered in jet fuel.

    What the hell is up with that?

    [video=youtube;EgExsz5q74Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgExsz5q74Y[/video]

    No one seen any plane parts and they all existed the hole the alleged plane went in.

    Ok apologists and troughers, how can a jet crash and explode, spewing fuel all over and blow people only 35 feet from the impact across the room and none of them were covered in jet fuel?

    Man it used to be so simple but modern physics is so tough now days!

    Did flt 77 have invisible fuel? Tell us how that works?
     
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    Where was she in the building?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    in the blast radius
     
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    Wrong answer. Where was she in the building, then tell me which of Newtons laws of motion was violated
     
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    when someone or thing is in the blast radius, and you can tell because they are generally blown off their feet from the force of the blast, it means that she and everyone else obviously had their shields up so the fuelton torpedoes that caused the blast was just deflected off their shields and went around them. Newton didnt know captain Kirk.
     
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    No you are mixing apples and oranges. She would have been doused by the fuel as a result of one of Newton's laws of motion (Still waiting for your answer on that by the way) She would have been affected by the blast in accordance with Boyle's law. So once again, where was she in the building?
     
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    I told you 35 feet from the impact with several other people in their offices respectively, none of which were covered in fuel and she walked out the alleged impact hole which was not burning.

    is newton and boyle invisible too?
     
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    Still not prepared to answer the question. So it has never entered your head that she may not have been in a place to doused by fuel
     
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    so lets see, 35 feet away from an exploding fuel tank and her and no one else had any fuel on them, and they all walked out that alleged impact hole.

    Sounds to me like newt and boyle are working overtime man.
     
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    Well when you figure out where she was you will know why she was not doused in fuel
     
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    Nah your friends didnt know anything about shields.

    I told you 35 feet from the impact, walked out through the hole.

    are you saying that she did not know where she was?
     
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    I am saying you dont
     
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    sure she said 35 feet, whats your problem, you need her to tell you personally then huh.
     
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    I would just like you to tell me where she was. Why is this becoming such a chore you. She was either in the trajectory of the fuel load or she was not. So............where was she
     
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    oh so you are going to preach that 10,000 gallons of fuel moving at 300 mph smashing into walls 35 feet away will not get one drop on her huh. oh yeh this is going to be great!

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    Which law of motion did the situation violate. I know this is all part of that pesky sciency stuff, but you really do need to do the homework I gave you and stop procrastinating
     
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    Thats your gig, You are the one who wants to prove something to do with boyle and newt. so prove it we are all waiting.
     
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    I still aint gettin any younger here

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    anytime
     
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    Whjy would they be doused with jet fuel? The plane hit the bottom floor and only opened a very small hole in the second floor.
     
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    Why would it, with a couple of sheet rock walls between her and the fuel?
     
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    wizard is going to tell us why they would not be, so let him do it
     
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    No. You have to explain why they should have been. The aircraft entered the ground floor and only broke a few small openings into the second, so fuel would not have reached many places in there.

    The fire fighters were still fighting fires in the entry hole up until the buil;ding collapsed, so it would not have been feasible for Gallop to have exited there. There are pictures of people using a door btween the entry hole and the fire station.

    The Bob Pugh videos show all manner of small bits of debris near the entry hole, but it is not neccessarily the caser that Gallop, in her traumatized state, would have recognized them as parts of an aircraft. It was not within the scope of her MOS to be able to recognize them.
     
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    she was long gone before the firefighters were there and what you think she walked out of the second floor.

    so now you think you are a mind reading shrink and can tell us what "really" should have been going on in her head huh. she was very aware of her knowledge limitations unlike most of the troughers out here.

    fuel under pressure, they were large holes.

    oh and you got a serious case of doublethink going if you think people can get blown off the feet and across the room with nothing to vcreate the force and you want to claim fuel was the force so you better get with cj and his randi pals and rethink that mess.
     
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    Actually, that was my AFSC in the Air Force and my secondary MOS in the Army. (AFSC 57150, Fire Protection Specialist. MOS 51M30, Fire Protection Sergeant.)

    The fire around the entry hole would have fried her before the fire department had beaten it down a bit. She would have had to have walked to a stairway and there were none that communicated directly to the entry hole that were useable because of the fires. The closest one would have probably been to the left of the wing mark, toward the fire station.

    It has been my experience and it is consistant with all the literature available on the subject, that most people who have experienced an explosion are uncertain what is going on and fail to notice a lot of details that do not seem to present any immediate threat. You would know that if you had any relevant training in these matters.

    Right, to some extent only, about the fuel being under pressure. The pressure was, of course, far greater on the ground floor. The holes were not especially large on the second floor. The blast-resistant windows performed pretty much up to expectations. Of course, all that fuel deflagrating in a thermobarric blast did over-pressurize the second floor to some extent, but not to the extent that a bomb would have. The fact that Gallop or any of the people with her there were not deafened permanently is proof that no HE detonation occured there. There is nothing in her story to support anything other than the impact of a large aircraft such as a 757.
     
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    Even then it is unlikely for her to be doused with fuel. When the plane hit the building, it underwent obvious enormous deceleration. The fuel being a liquid did not undergo the same deceleration and attempted to continue on the same vector the plane was on when it hit. So unless she was on the same bearing as that vector she is not going to be doused.
     

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