A “Red State” or “Blue City” Murder Problem?

Is that age adjusted?

 

The article doesn’t indicate that’s the case and the actual study was pay walled. I’ll assume not unless you know differently.

 

Why would one run query based on race?
Isn't the better measure to run the query based on poverty rates?

If one is looking for a more root problem.

 

No. Here are the age adjusted data:

 

Why exclude any data in the search for a solution?

 

You think the color of people's skin influences crimes?

Why search for data that isn't important to a solution. Unless the color of skin is a factor. I doubt it is.

If anything, it takes away from the root causes using skin color as a cause.
When the real issues are poverty, education, job opportunities, etc.

 

Is race linked to poverty? Is race linked to higher participation in gangs? Is race linked to a higher incarceration rate for males?

 

NO.
People want to make it about race. IMO, it's an excuse to not look for the root of a problem.

Easier to blame people than solve an issue.

EDIT: I've asked this question many times and never got a good answer.
Is there a link between crime and the amount of melanin a person has?

 

Blacks don't have a higher poverty rate than other races? POC don't have a higher participation in gangs? Blacks don't suffer from a higher incarceration rate for adult males than other races?

You can't ignore that Blacks suffer disproportionately. Addressing poverty, culture and legal system injustices will take years if not decades. Meanwhile, Blacks in America suffer a homicide rate over 13 times that of white Americans. What can we do now to address that?

 

Of course they do. But is it because they are black?

Or is it because of all the other reasons you and I have agreed a part of the problem. Poverty, education, job opportunity.
Crimes will be, or should be, very similar in large populated areas regardless of skin color.

Do you think that isn't the case? What reason would there be for the skin color black to have higher rates than any other skin color with same society issues, education and poverty?

 

If the assumptions were that Blacks suffered disproportionately higher rates of homicide than other races due to poverty, yet data showed that whites actually suffered higher rates of homicide than Blacks, wouldn't that be something that would warrant further investigation?

One interesting data point I showed earlier was that Black in Texas, a state with lax gun laws, suffered a lower homicide rate than Blacks in California with strict gun laws. Absent any other information this would suggest that stricter gun laws don't protect Black Americans. The poverty rates of Blacks in both Texas in California are almost identical.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-ind...0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"}

If poverty is the primary cause then we don't need strict gun laws.

 

Maybe there are less blacks in Tx than Ca in poverty.
Maybe gun laws aren't designed to protect the most impoverished.

I don't really get the black vs white argument. What specifically about pigment or melanin would be a cause for crime or violence?
I just don't see that connection.

There may be differences, but I doubt it has to do with the skin color. IMO, there'd be another underlying reason.

EDIT: From a map and link I posted earlier in the thread. Ca is considered safer place to live than Tx. Based, I think, on crime rates.

 

No one said the color of the skin was the cause.
Just that blacks in the US commit, per capita, FAR more homicides than whites.
They also commit more homicides in raw numbers, but that's less important.

 

Nearly every large city in America is run by Democrats. So that's kind of a non point.

Wanna try again?

 

Oooh, undercover racism!

 

How is data racist? The homicide victimization rate of Black's in rhe US is over 13 times that of whites in the US.

 

Most violent crimes are committed mostly by males. Regardless of the skin color.
But some only see color as the main issue.

It can't be a male problem.
It can't be a poverty problem.
It can't be an education problem.

 

Black males in Texas have a lower homicide victimization rate than Black males in California.

I guess it isn't a gun control issue, either.

 

Because they don't have as many black people as red states do.

 

What's your point?

 

You mean constitutional carry Kentucky is safer than Illinois, Rhode Island, Wisconsin and Minnesota?

 

Everyone is Texas is less educated. It levels the playing field.

 

YOu can't possibly believe that.

 

I don't believe it. I know it, because it's a fact...

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/black-population-by-state

 

Actually that map does a pretty fine job of debunking your assertions.