A few debunking links

No, I mean coincidental. A paper talks about an attack being beneficial. Coincidentally, there is an attack. To truthers, and especially Jango, this is proof positive that the two HAVE to be related even though no other evidence exists to back up the link.

 

so after a full investigation you were not able to find any evidence is that right?

 

I have not investigated it other than what truthers have presented. Repeated requests for evidence have fallen on deaf ears as truthers don't have evidence to present. You would think if one is going to make a claim that one could actually back up said claim with evidence, but that is apparently not the truther way.

 

http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646



THE TOP 40
REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001

... An outline in simple talking points ...


We are continuing to compile the best documentation links for every single point on this page, and intend to post the updated version as soon as possible, and create teaching tools and more from the info. This is a significant and time-consuming process--if you have useful links, please send them to janice[at]911truth[dot]org. Thanks for your help!
If you use the search function with title key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the NY Attorney General Spitzer petition and complaint (Justicefor911.org). For physical evidence discussion, see Point 7.


THE DAY ITSELF - EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies - NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation''s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?


THE DAY - POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See "The Case for Demolitions," the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)

 

FOREKNOWLEDGE & THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS

What did officials know? How did they know it?
a. Multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the "Big Wedding"), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.
b. Various individuals came into possession of specific advance knowledge, and some of them tried to warn the US prior to September 11th.
c. Certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.

9) Able Danger, Plus - Surveillance of Alleged Hijackers
a. The men identified as the 9/11 ringleaders were under surveillance for years beforehand, on the suspicion they were terrorists, by a variety of US and allied authorities - including the CIA, the US military''s "Able Danger" program, the German authorities, Israeli intelligence and others.
b. Two of the alleged ringleaders who were known to be under surveillance by the CIA also lived with an FBI asset in San Diego, but this is supposed to be yet another coincidence.

10) Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers - as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the "Phoenix Memo," David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration''s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the "Bojinka" plot, and John O''Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in The 9/11 Commission Report.)

11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.
b. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks.
c. Initial reports on these trades were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).

12) Who were the perpetrators?
a. Much of the evidence establishing who did the crime is dubious and miraculous: bags full of incriminating material that happened to miss the flight or were left in a van; the "magic passport" of an alleged hijacker, found at Ground Zero; documents found at motels where the alleged perpetrators had stayed days and weeks before 9/11.
b. The identities of the alleged hijackers remain unresolved, there are contradictions in official accounts of their actions and travels, and there is evidence several of them had "doubles," all of which is omitted from official investigations.
c. What happened to initial claims by the government that 50 people involved in the attacks had been identified, including the 19 alleged hijackers, with 10 still at large (suggesting that 20 had been apprehended)? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-worldtrade-50suspects,0,1825231.story


THE 9/11 COVER-UP, 2001-2006

13) Who Is Osama Bin Ladin?
a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department''s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the "base" (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?

14) All the Signs of a Systematic 9/11 Cover-up
a. Airplane black boxes were found at Ground Zero, according to two first responders and an unnamed NTSB official, but they were "disappeared" and their existence is denied in The 9/11 Commission Report.
b. US officials consistently suppressed and destroyed evidence (like the tapes recorded by air traffic controllers who handled the New York flights).
c. Whistleblowers (like Sibel Edmonds and Anthony Shaffer) were intimidated, gagged and sanctioned, sending a clear signal to others who might be thinking about speaking out.
d. Officials who "failed" (like Myers and Eberhard, as well as Frasca, Maltbie and Bowman of the FBI) were given promotions.

15) Poisoning New York
The White House deliberately pressured the EPA into giving false public assurances that the toxic air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe. This knowingly contributed to an as-yet unknown number of health cases and fatalities, and demonstrates that the administration does consider the lives of American citizens to be expendable on behalf of certain interests.

16) Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics. (See also item no. 23, below.)

17) Anthrax
Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax - which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations - were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)?

1 The Stonewall
a. Colin Powell promised a "white paper" from the State Department to establish the authorship of the attacks by al-Qaeda. This was never forthcoming, and was instead replaced by a paper from Tony Blair, which presented only circumstantial evidence, with very few points actually relating to September 11th.
b. Bush and Cheney pressured the (freshly-anthraxed) leadership of the Congressional opposition into delaying the 9/11 investigation for months. The administration fought against the creation of an independent investigation for more than a year.
c. The White House thereupon attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger as the chief investigator, and acted to underfund and obstruct the 9/11 Commission.

 

I didn't bother to quote the above lists because I think the print is easier to read the way it is.

This list is by no means comprehensive. I don't know who compiled it. I think a much better one can be assembled which would be more succinct and convincing. But that will have to wait until I can get around to doing it myself or until I find another which someone else has done which satisfies me.

Koko,

You can quibble with Prince Lutz Alot and Plaque if you find it amusing. I admit I get some satisfaction in showing how ridiculous their cover up attempts are. Other than that, it is pointless to even reply to them. Anyone who has followed this thread can see what they are doing.

The number of "coincidences" and suspicious anomalies surrounding 9/11 is so great, that the law of probability eliminates chance as a means to explain them all.

Taken one at time, De Bunkos can concoct some unlikely excuse in the hopes that a listener would be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. But anyone who steps back far enough to take it all in at once cannot help but be stunned at the implications. This leaves a second line of De Bunko defense, namely, the reluctance of any sane person to want to believe that a criminal cabal would actually commit mass murder to increase their own power and wealth and that this same cabal would have to be in control of the government in order to get away with it.

I must confess I'd rather not believe it myself. The thoughts of the Zionist organized crime syndicate controlling things the way they do makes me sick. But the evidence leaves me no choice.


Don't worry, Prince Lutz Alot and Plaque most likely know this already. You don't have to convince them of anything. Their job is to deny it and to keep as many people in the dark as possible. When they get you to engage them, they keep you from posting material which someone else might read and see the light. That's why they bad mouth you.

There are many more people who are simply ignorant of the facts because of the Zionist controlled media.
Then there are some who find the ramifications of all this just too much to accept, so they are in a state of psychological denial.

Those who suspect the truth may try to cope with it by attempting to accept and conform to it by telling themselves "So what if the Ashkenazim Jews are in charge? They're not so bad are they? They CAN'T ALL be bad? They don't really hate Goyim do they? They won't discriminate against ME, if I just go along with them will they? Afterall, I want to prove to the world what an open minded person I am and show them all how much I love humanity and how I can accept EVERYONE regardless of "race, color, or creed". That is the RIGHT way to be isn't it? I KNOW I DON'T REALLY HATE ANYONE and I want to give everyone an even break. So what else can I do except go along with the program, even if it does mean Jewish Hegemony or Zionist world domination?"

These latter types are determined to "kill 'em with kindness". They have themselves convinced that all they need to do is just show everybody how much they love them all and that everyone will respond in kind and then the whole world will just be one big luvy duvy fuzzy wuzzy family. Then we can all hold hands and sing in perfect harmony while we buy each other a Coke. So they have resolved themselves to just capitulate to their demands of whoever it is that is in charge of the global pocket book and hope that their compliance will earn them a place among the "Chosen Ones". They don't want to fight 'cause they don't want to hurt anyone. They just want material prosperity and a cushy life. PEACE, LOVE, MAN. WE'RE ALL THE SAME INSIDE so were ALL brothers.

They don't have the common sense that God gave a goose or they'd look at their own family relations and all the sh!t people do that gets in the local news. Then they'd see that there ain't going to be no Utopia no matter how stoned on dope they get or how many times a day they kiss a Jews A$$!

 

The spam king strikes again. Let us know when you have an original thought of your own or actually wish to debate the blatant lies you make.

 

I've noticed he seems to be running the gamut of truther nonsense....

 

the OCTAS are hypocries alright,they call people tin foil hatters and a nut when to deny reality like they do is being a nut.touche.calling all those high credible people in the patriots question 9/11 tin foil hatters and nutters like they do and worshipping the corporate media that has a long history of lying to the american people and our corrupt government institutions as well is is proof postive they ignore reality so whos the nut? hee hee.great post.

 

Did not get to finish posting ther rest of what i wanted to say yesterday on this post cause the site started going really slow at the time but again in addition to scotts great post on the first page here that took that pathetic opening post to school,here is the proof in the pudding that 9/11 was orchestrated and carried out by the CIA and the mossad below in these videos and the OCTA'S can only whine and cry in defeat and throw tantrems like that opening post was having to resort to lies to try and save face in their posts when they know they are defeated. priceless,I love it.comedy gold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_vwzjdTi4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T1Lg14O1Vo

too bad they have to be immature and deny defeat and resort to lies when they cant counte r the facts to try and save face in their posts.hers is the REAL debunking links./hee hee

 

Here is a better list than the one on the previous page.

You must be careful when selecting information about 9/11. A substantial amount of it has been planted by the Hasbarats to discredit the factual and honest reports. They are very clever liars. There is even a film out which uses the word "anomalies" and then goes on to assert that there were no planes that hit the towers.

I don't how many people there are who are fool enough to actually fall for that one, but there are more who are fool enough to be persuaded by it that all evidence given indicating a controlled demolition and Zionist involvement, to discredit those who are closest to the truth.

Even the bit which has been circulated that alleges warnings given to the "inept" US intel and gov. by Mossad, are enough to cause many to then dismiss the Zionist/Israeli component, for why would they warn us if they were behind it? When this info is passed on, it is done in the same vein as that which tries to lay the entire blame at the feet of W Bush (the stooge) and Dick Channey (the curmudgeon).

Make no mistake. Israeli intel knew about the attacks because their operatives help usher it through. The reasons why should be obvious. Jews are no less inclined to enlist the support of organized crime than the FBI was during WWII or with regard to Castro.

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/topanomalies.html

 

One word for this drivel-Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

I do not believe that Israel would any more warn the US of an attack than they did the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. Israel has also demonstrated their lack of compunction against killing US citizen to further their aims as was illustrated during the Levon Affair and the attack on the USS Liberty.

Israel is NOT an allie. Israel, the US Zionists, and the "Russian" (Jewish) mob are the absolute worst enemies that the US has bar none, including Red China. At least we know where they are coming from. And it is not as difficult to distinguish them from ordinary Americans. Our problem is much like telling the difference between mushrooms which are edible and those which are poisonous.

People who were taught that the USSR was the greatest menace during the cold war would have expected the enemy of the US to wear a uniform with a red star on it and to speak in with a Russian accent.
This is not how the enemy has presented himself. And he does not reside overseas any longer.

People should now realize that President Putin is possibly a greater ally in checking Zionist organized crime than our own FBI and CIA whose hands are tied because they are being directed by Zionists themselves. Whereas Putin is a patriot of Russia and the Russian people, our own intelligence administrators have become the arms of the Marxist ideologues which Kruschev warned us would take command of the US. His predictions have been realized.

No US politician has the means to resist the power of money which belongs to world wide Zionist organized crime. The only thing that could possibly overthrow the power of the Jews in this country right now would be an awakening of every gentile as to who they are and what their intentions are. Otherwise you can expect to live in the multicultural Zionist plutocracy in which people of Ashkenazim extract and connections are given the advantage in every conceivable area of life. In this "New World Order", white non Jewish males who do not serve will be on the very bottom rung of the social ladder. Only useful idiots, shills, and Shabbos Goyim will be allowed to flourish.

 

One word for YOU PIG $h1t!

 

cont. from link above

Run-Up to the Attack

Numerous incidents preceding the attack indicate many people had advance knowledge of the attack.

Put Options
Stock trades bet on the fall in share values for the two airlines whose planes were used in the attack.
Put options purchases on United Airlines and American Airlines stock rose to four and 25 times normal levels in the days preceding the attack.
Avoidance of the Airlines, the WTC, and the Pentagon
Government officials and executives avoided the targets of the attack.
Pentagon officials canceled travel plans on September 10th.
San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown received a warning not to fly on September 10th.
Scotland Yard prohibited Salman Rushdie from flying on September 11th.
Two employees of Odigo, the instant messaging service, received e-mail warnings of the attack two hours before the first assault on the WTC.
Business executives, some of whom worked in the WTC, were in Nebraska to attend a meeting at Offutt Air Force Base hosted by billionaire Warren Buffett on the morning of September 11th. The same base would be visited later that day by George W. Bush.
Attorney General Ashcroft stopped flying on commercial airlines in the summer of 2001

 

The attack scenario was irrational on the part of the alleged hijackers, and its execution is incomprehensible in light of their behavior. There is little or no credible evidence that Arab hijackers were involved in the September 11th attack, except in the takeover of Flight 93.

Attack Plan
By flying from remote airports and going far out of their way, the attack planners exposed their plan to almost certain ruin, had the air defense system operated normally.
The originating airport for Flights 11 and 175 was Boston Logan instead of any of several airports near New York City. This created about 40 minutes of exposure to interception for each flight.
Flight 77 flew to the Midwest before turning around to return to Washington D.C.. It was airborne an hour and 23 minutes before allegedly attacking the Pentagon. That would provide ample opportunity for interception even if the air defense system were mostly disabled.
Flight 93 flew to the Midwest before turning around to fly toward Washington D.C. Had it reached the capital, it would have been airborne for more than an hour and a half. The odds of escaping interception with that plan would be infinitesimal under standard operating procedures.

 

Behavior of Villains
The behavior of the alleged hijackers preceding the attack is inconsistent with skill and discipline needed to have a hope of pulling off such an attack.

Mohammed Atta allegedly barely caught Flight 11, a key flight in the event that he was supposedly planning for years.
The alleged hijackers partied at topless bars and drank alcohol, despite being portrayed as fundamentalist Muslims, for whom such behavior would be surprising, to say the least. 9

Evidence Void
There is no hard evidence that any of the alleged hijackers were on any of the doomed flights, and substantial evidence that some weren't involved.

No video of any of the 19 hijackers at any of the three originating airports of the four flights has been made public, except for a video allegedly showing hijackers of Flight 77.
At least six of the alleged hijackers have turned up alive since the attack.
None of the four flight crews radioed Air Traffic Control about hijackings in progress.
None of the four flight crews punched in the four-digit hijacking code.
No public evidence indicates that the remains of any of the hijackers was identified at any of the crash sites.
None of the contents of any of the black boxes were made public for more than four years.
The only 4-1/2 minutes of the phone call from Flight 11 Attendant Betty Ong made public describes a stabbing but does not provide any details indicating that Arab hijackers were on board.

Phenomenal Success
The success with which hijackers allegedly took over four jets with knives and then piloted the jets to small targets is simply miraculous.

None of the four flight crews were able to stop the alleged hijackers, in spite of several of the pilots being Vietnam veterans.
None of the alleged hijackers were good pilots, yet the three buildings were hit with phenomenal precision.

 

(Lack of) Military Response

Despite normal intercept times of between 10 and 20 minutes for errant domestic flights, the airliners commandeered on 9/11/01 roamed the skies for over an hour without interference.

Failures to Report
According to NORAD's timeline the FAA reported errant airliners after inexplicable delays.
The FAA took 18 minutes to report Flight 11's loss of communication and deviation from its flight plan.
The FAA took 39 minutes to report Flight 77's deviation from its flight plan.
Failures to Scramble
Interceptors were only scrambled from distant bases after long delays.
Despite the fact that Flights 11 and 175 were headed for New York City, no interceptors were scrambled from nearby La Guardia, or from Langley, Virginia.
Despite NORAD's having received formal notification of the first hijacking at 8:38, no interceptors were scrambled from Andrews to protect the nearby Pentagon until after it was hit at 9:37.
Failures to Intercept
Once in the air, interceptors flew at only small fractions of their top speeds, assuring they would fail to intercept the airliners.
The two F-15s scrambled from Otis AFB to chase Flight 11 flew at an average of 447 mph, about 23.8% of their top speed of 1875 mph.
The two F-16s scrambled from Langley to protect the capital flew at an average of 410.5 mph, about 27.4% of their top speed of 1500 mph.
Failures to Redeploy
Nearby fighters on routine patrol duty were not redeployed to intercept the airliners, nor were fighters that belatedly reached Manhattan sent to defend the capital.
Two F-15s flying off the coast of Long Island were not redeployed to Manhattan until after the second Tower was hit.
The two F-15s scrambled from Otis AFB to protect Manhattan could have reached the capital in 9.6 minutes once they arrived over New York City. That was still 34 minutes before the Pentagon was hit.

 

World Trade Center Destruction

On 9/11/01 three skyscrapers were totally destroyed, with structural collapse primarily due to fires given as the explanation. Fires and bombings have never before or since caused steel-frame buildings to collapse.

Building 7
Building 7 imploded late on 9/11/01. It was not hit by an aircraft.
Building 7 experienced total collapse, allegedly because of fires, when no steel-frame building before or since has ever collapsed, totally or even partially, due to fires. Building 7 was an over-engineered 47-story steel-frame skyscraper, standing over 350 feet from the nearest of the Twin Towers. Public evidence documents only small fires in it on September 11th.
Building 7 collapsed in a nearly perfectly vertical fall, producing only minor damage in the Verizon and Post Office buildings only 60 feet on either side of it.
Building 7 collapsed into a remarkably small rubble pile of mostly pulverized remains, when no steel building falling for any reason has ever pulverized itself.
Building 7 contained a 15-million-dollar emergency command center, but instead of using it for its ostensible purpose, then-Mayor Giuliani evacuated his team to a makeshift command center as soon as the September 11th attack started. 11 12
The emergency command center was destroyed along with the rest of the building, even though it was constructed as a bomb-hardened shelter.
The remains of Building 7 were rapidly removed and the steel recycled, evidently without any on-site and only extremely limited off-site examination. The rapid disposal operation proceeded despite the fact that no one was believed buried in the rubble, and the tidy rubble pile was not blocking adjacent roads.
Twin Towers
The Twin Towers exploded into dust and shattered steel, a behavior inconsistent with the known behavior of steel structures outside of explosive demolition.
The South Tower was struck 17 minutes after the North Tower, and in a less damaging manner, and it had less severe fires, yet it collapsed 29 minutes before the North Tower.
The South Tower's core structure was largely undamaged by the off-centered jet impact, unlike the North Tower, yet it collapsed sooner.
The South Tower had much less severe fires than the North Tower, and yet collapsed sooner.
Smoke from the fires in the South Tower became progressively darker up to the time of its collapse.
A stream of glowing molten material flowed from the South Tower minutes before its collapse.
Firefighters reached the crash zone of the South Tower and described controllable fires.
Both Towers started to disintegrate at regions above and below the crash zones in the first seconds of their falls.
Both Towers fell straight down, through themselves, following the path of maximum resistance, a behavior never before observed in spontaneous collapses of any type of vertical structure.
The collapses of both Towers exhibited features never otherwise seen except in controlled demolitions: sudden onset accompanied by thunderous bangs, visible explosions ringing their perimeters, energetic ejections of dust at regular intervals, and copious production of dust.
Both Towers exploded outward and were shredded and pulverized -- a pattern of destruction much more destructive than normal controlled demolitions, yet this result was supposedly produced without the added energy of explosives.
So thorough and consistent was the destruction of the Twin Towers, that no remains of the distinctive web trusses are clearly recognizable in hundreds of photographs of the rubble in various stages of excavation.
Intense heat persisted in the rubble completely unlike anything produced by known structure collapses and/or fires.
Settled dust from the Twin Towers was shown to contain residues of aluminothermic reactions, and active thermitic pyrotechnics.

 

you ask for evidence and he has already given you evidence, the fact that someone benefited is evidence, that would make him the plaintiff and now the ball is in your court.

What evidence do you have to show they would not have benefited?

I presume you have been to court at least once in your life?

 

And, as a lawyer, you should know that the fact someone benefits from an action does not constitute evidence of a crime. If you went before a grand jury with nothing but person or group A benefitted from action B thus they are guilty, they would strip you of your imaginary license.

Whether or not they benefitted is immaterial. Try to keep up. You're an embarassment to pretend lawyers everywhere.

Quite a few times. One doesn't have to go to court to understand that if all the "evidence" you have is a slight benefit without any clear ties to the crime, you don't have a case. That is what describes Jango's case. Even if all you had was motive and nothing else you wouldn't have a case. Even a completely fake lawyer wannabe should know that. Why don't you? Thanks for proving you are clueless as to what it takes in our current system. Guess those classes at Erie community college weren't all they were cracked up to be, eh?

 

Yer kiddin right?

I mean you would go up against them with that strategy?

Let me know what street corner you will be hanging out at and I will toss you a nickel every now and then.



suffice to say yaz a batter got sum sculin befer yer der dat luuny (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

claps hands.

 

Holston you really dont need to explain any of this.the paid shills cant get around bld 7 no matter how hard they try.they cant get around the fact that there were other buildings much closer to the towers than bld 7 and had far more extensive fires and damage done to it than bld 7 yet they all remained standing and unlike the towers and bld 7 were not owned by Silverstein.barry jennings testimony of explosions in the basement kills it to,

 

Yet another totally meaningless "response" from Koko that fails miserably to address anyone's point, including his own. Congrats on reinforcing what I've been claiming, Koko.