A letter-to-the-editor that will not be printed.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ray9, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump had every right to fire Comey. There is no question of his decision or authority to do so…. He was the president.
     
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    Sort of was. It was one of the great people Trump appointed.
     
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    Can you point out where in this thread anyone said otherwise?

    You seem so eager to parrot one of the right wing talking points, you simply injected your response in such a way that makes no sense to the present discussion.
     
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    it was stupid of him to do so and why Mueller took his place
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    The deep state swamp runs deep.. but you do not dispute Trump had every right to fire Comey. There is no question of his decision or authority to do so…. He was the president.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it was unethical of him to do so, but yes, he did it and why Mueller was assigned by Republicans
     
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    Mueller was assigned by the Attorney General. Not Republicans. And no, Mueller didn't take Comeys place. lol
    And it was Mueller that determined in his report, at no time did Trump or his campaign conspire with Russians to effect the outcome of the election.
    Mic Drop
    Bye Bye
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is common sense for a president to fire a poor performer who was not acting ethically....
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    unfortunately for Trump, Trump admitted why he fired him, which was unethical
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    a republican assigned Mueller
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    And why did Trump fire Comey?
     
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    Yes. The Republican Attorney General appointed by Trump.

    Do you also think democrats orchestrated the 8 or 9 benghazi investigations?

    Which part of the report said that? I have spent a lot of time perusing it and dont remember that.

    Adam Yauch you ain't.
     
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    sure

    "Trump admits he fired Comey over Russia."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/11/donald-trump-james-comey-firing-russia-investigation

    "Trump said: “And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said: ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.’”"


    even Trump admitted Dems should have won in 2016
     
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    You are so wrong about so much so often.

    Trump fired Comey over recommendations from Rosenstein and sessions

    https://www.scribd.com/document/347...60149026&source=hp_affiliate&medium=affiliate

    Rosensteins recommendation
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39866767

    Sessions recommendation..
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/did-att...-recuse-himself-recommending-comeys-dismissal

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    Aw as if firing Comet should have caused any issue with anyone Comey was simply a convenient excuse
     
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    Volume I, Page ten, first paragraph
    The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

    Barr Report
    As you know, one of the primary purposes of the Special Counsel’s investigation was to determine whether members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, or any individuals associated with that campaign, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election. Volume I of the Special Counsel’s report describes the results of that investigation. As you will see, the Special Counsel’s report states that his “investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
     
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    AG Barr assigned Mueller
    Mueller hired 14 top Democrat lawyers, 50 forensic FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 2500 witnesses, and subpoenaed millions of documents and you know what his report found?

    Volume I of the Special Counsel’s report describes the results of that investigation. As you will see, the Special Counsel’s report states that his “investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

    Sorry bout your luck
     
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    and that excuse would fly had Trump not opened his mouth and told the truth about why he did it

    guess it's you that is so wrong about so much so often.
     
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    Trump was just shooting himself in the foot again
     
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    yes, Mueller hired people from both sides to have a fair investigation
     
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    Which part of the above states...

    "And it was Mueller that determined in his report, at no time did Trump or his campaign conspire with Russians to effect the outcome of the election."

    I assume you recognize the distinction between "did not establish" and "..., at no time did Trump or his campaign conspire..."

    This is true (except for afterword and the manafort polling data of which I am sure you are aware) ...although their was collusion as noted in the part of the report the right wing media never discusses.

    Of course coordination/conspiracy is different then collusion but that distinction is obvious in Barrs transparent attempt to leave that word out of his statement that you provided.
     
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    Sorry, they both have the same ending. Wordsmithing isn't going to change the fact that no conspiracy to effect the outcome of the election ever exited.



    Mueller left the word out and distinctly explained why he left the word out. Collusion isn't a crime.

    In Muellers report
    The office recognized that the word collude is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in United States code nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law.

    And you said you read the report? Hmmmmm
     
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    Absolutely. Brennan told the FBI that Hillary was running an operation with Russia to frame Trump. In August 2016, Brennan briefed Obama and Biden on the operation being run against a candidate for President. Instead of stopping the criminal activity in its tracks and indicting Hillary, etc., the Obama Klan took the product of Hillary's conspiracy with an enemy of the US to a FISA court to go after Trump. One has to wonder if Trump claimed executive privilege recently (hoping to lose) to clear the way for an investigation of members of the Obama Klan for their crimes while in office.
     
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    The bold is your opinion but I agree the end result is the same.

    That said, it is you that wordsmithing when you attempted to paint a rosier picture by claiming that Mueller specifically claimed it was proven Trump did not conspire. He never stated that in the report.

    I agree with this. Never claimed otherwise. As a matter of fact I eluded to this in my post.
     
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    When 50 forensic FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 17 intelligence agencies, 14 top Democrat lawyers, 2500 witnesses, and millions of subpoenaed documents all come to the conclusion they couldn't establish evidence exist, I think its pretty clear.
    Coupled with what we know now, the Clinton campaign knowingly conspired with Russians to provide this false narrative to get FISA warrants to spy on Trumps campaign.

    There is no nugget of possibility that Trump was a planted Russian asset or that Russia conspired with Trump just because they couldn't establish evidence existed.
    If the forces that were brought to bear on this investigation can't find any evidence, then either no evidence ever existed or Trump outsmarted them all.
    You can chose which one you think is more likely.
     

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