A new poll shows 52% of Republicans actually think Trump won the popular vote

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    Al Gore would have supported your arguments, and those of the Republicans as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc1h1wg7LeQ
     
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    Perhaps when the new head of Education stars work an understanding of US history, the Constitution and the electoral system will again be taught in the schools. http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/23/politics/betsy-devos-picked-for-education-secretary/
     
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    What do you could only get............that's how you win. There is NO NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE, why do you pretend there is one?

    Are you asserting that had there been a national popular campaign and election the results would be exactly the same as adding up all the 51 unique and separate state elections?

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    Their voices were heard just a loud as anyone else's.

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    He got more popular votes in twice as many states as Clinton, the only popular votes that exist, THERE IS NO NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE, why do you pretend there is? The salient question, not the bogus one, is why Hillary couldn't put together a coalition of states to win the office, the STATES elect the President not the PEOPLE.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You seem to not understand civics or math. Tallying up 51 separate and unique elections in no way equals what one single national vote would produce.
     
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    Gingrich and Kasich cleared those up and Bush followed them as he successfully navigated through the 2000/2001 slowdown and recession resulting in 52 months of solid growth, rising incomes, full employment WITH average labor participation rates, soaring tax revenues and a last Republican budget deficit of a paltry $161B. Then the Democrats took control of the government and we see what happened.
     
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    LMAO, not surprised in the least bit.
     
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    So you are a "Hamiltonian" and would like to do it as he proposed?

    And by 1832 all the states except NC had decided to have the citizens of the state elect the state electors for that state. The Constitution as opposed to Hamilton's ideas left it entirely to the state legislatures to decide how the electors would be chosen and the states rejected the Hamiltonian ideas for power to the people.

    How exactly would you change it in a manner that could actually be passed my a Constitutional Amendment meaning first the Congress and the 3/5 or both houses of each states legislature?
     
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    Meaning it is up to the states to decide the rules for their electors such as a binding election. And I bet we see more of them in the future.
     
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    I never stated he didn't win the election. I was pointing out your statement that 2/3 of the CPU try rejected Hilary is completely incorrect.
     
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    This is completely unresponsive to my post. 2/3 of the country did not reject Hillary. In fact, over 50% of the country voted for her.
     
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    I got one better than that. On my personal polling, I have discovered that 99 percent of Hillary dems think the popular vote decides who is president.
     
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    It's exactly responsive to it, there was no national vote. Tallying up 51 separate and unique state elections does not create a single national vote. There is no such thing as that national popular vote. Candidates do not campaign in a national popular election and people don't vote as in a national popular election.

    You engage in folly.
     
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    Completely unresponsive, as I made no mention of a national vote.

    This has nothing to do with anything I've said.
    I engage in reality. 2/3 of the country did not reject Clinton. Over 50% voted for her.
     
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    Ahh yes, more of these liberal polls.

    They were so accurate during the election.
     
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    Well, 100% of Republicans and Democrats know that Trump won and that's all that matters....now Dems can cry themselves to sleep every night...
     
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    Stephen Colbert is irrelevant...

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    No one cares...
     
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    What is your distinction between country and nation?

    Has everything to do with it. The country didn't vote, individual states voted unique to themselves.

    In what state are you talking about? The was no national vote for her, we did not vote as a country we voted as individual states in individual elections. That's reality, not pretending we voted as a country.
     
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    Are you counting the millions of illegals that voted in California? Take them away and it appears Trump won the popular vote too. Hopefully, by the time the 2018 mid-term rolls around there will be a constitutional nationwide voter ID law.
     
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    Your beliefs were based on what MSM spoon fed you with very little to no evidence to back anything up. I hear the new excuse for Hills' loss is Huma Abedin, you're beginning to eat your own...
     
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    Nobody voted for Hillary until today. The votes will be counted on January 6th.
     
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    Who did the people vote for?



    It has nothing to do with it. Do you even remember what my post was in response to?



    The reality is simply that Clinton won over 50% of the vote, so to say 2/3 of the country rejectded her is demonstrably false.

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    Over 50% voted for Hilary. That's not even debatable.
     
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    Nope, as of the latest tally 304 votes for Trump, 221 votes for Hillary, and 6 for other people
     
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    Well for one, they don't debate the same issues we do.
     
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    Yet reality demonstrably shows over 50% of America voted against trump.
     
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    Nope, over 50% of America didn't vote.
     
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