Okay...why? The US has 8,000 nuclear warheads. Iran doesn't even have one. If they begin making some, it will be less than ten for years to come. And even when they get them, are they just supposed to be insane and go shooting down America and Jews all over the world. Let's think logically. You get a nuke because you want to protect your nation and build it up. Having one includes you in the Nuke Wall- the wall that assured your country will not be taken lightly or you'll face nuclear retaliation. This is pivotal to Iran's needs as they have been f***ed with ever since the Colonial period. If you get a Nuke and then shoot at people with nukes, everyone is destroyed and there is literally no point in going through the process. The only person who would employ such a tactic would be the literally insane. And the entire government would have to be insane and committed to absolute suicide and that cartoonist belief is what some people tend to propagate. What Iran is trying to do is raise itself out of squalor and become a strong nation. They are trying to modernize their infrastructure and structure their economy to be able to compete with the world-class economies of the top nations. At the moment, they are facing 80% reduction in economy due to sanctions against them having any kind of nuclear power at all, let alone nuclear weapons. Imagine having your incoming cash, food, and supplies reduced by 80%. Imagine the state of your family. If Iran is radicalized, it's the US, Israel, and everyone else cooperating with these sanctions that are radicalizing them, but it's not Islamic radicalization, but political. We claim to be willing to talk but the Iranian President came to America in person to talk to Americans about his intentions and his ideas and he wasn't even given audience. He was invariably demonized in the media, and I'm sure 95% of the people in this country did not listen to a word he said in that speech. Yet, we are supposed to be trying to come to terms. Iran is no threat to the US, except economically, should it actually manage to improve its situation and become an economic contender. As much as you like to think otherwise, the only reason you got oil cheap is because America had its hand up the Middle East for some time now, at the cost of Middle Eastern people because other leaders easily sold out to the US. One person actually cares and he's the monster. He would make it so that his countries resources return the profits to his people, but if that means higher gas prices that human dignity crap can't be tolerated one bit. What is being played in the Middle East is Risk or Monopoly, or a combination of the two. Iran is not the threat. They are the victim.
excellent thread and excellent analysis BRAVO! Now to convince the American public who the real enemy of peace is. That's not going to be easy after decades of propaganda but we can live in hope they will eventually wake up. I also think walking out of the UN on Irans President showed more about the US and it's stupid allies than him. That is not what diplomats do at least not respectable ones. That was so utterly childish but it's what we expect sadly from warmongers and weapons manufacturing lunatics
International Relations scholar Kenneth Waltz provides an interesting analysis of why Iran should get a nuclear weapon in the July/August edition of Foreign Affairs: Excerpt: http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137731/kenneth-n-waltz/why-iran-should-get-the-bomb I agree with Waltz on the premise that in state-to-state relations, there is no reason for Iran, Israel, or the United States to act irrational, indicative by a historical comparison to the United States and the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Nevertheless, Waltz fails to address the possibility of Iran allocating nuclear material to a terrorist organization or covert actor. The Iranian regime may be rational enough to not subject itself to the costs of escalation to nuclear conflict, but it does mean it can forward foreign policy objectives with regards to nuclear use by hedging the costs of negative feedback by providing nuclear material/a nuclear weapon to, say, Hezbollah. I think there is greater probability of this occurring than the former, and henceforth, both the United States and Israel need to prepare contingency plans, if they have not already, for such. Furthermore, even though a nuclear conflict between the United States/Israel and Iran is slim, a conventional, proxy, cyber conflict, covert or not, is not, with covert conflicts, particularly through respective intelligence agencies, already in the works. To conclude, Iran is a threat to the United States, but not the most dangerous one.
Yeah more nukes in an unstable region what could go wrong? Also how do you think it will be regulated in America, Russia and China we have a two man rule if I remember right so has good safeguards though somewhere like Pakistan has again if I remember right have only one man that does it and in place where they are constantly making threats to India this is not good. Also if you know your facts you would know people under saddam hussein were told to go to places and learn about nuclear technology I can't remember the guys name but I saw someone mention him and his book where he talked about it. Also not to mention that Iran has been missile testing not that long ago, now if all this was done right they could have a nuke by sometime in the next few years especially if they keep getting knowledge on nuclear power which they are trying to use. The point is nuclear weapons isn't a right it's a privilege that should only be extended to countries that can control their security measures. Now I would rather less nukes in most countries as less nukes would benefit most people and decrease tension like that of Israel. Do you really think that Israel are going to feel safe with Iran with a nuke? If you think they are on edge now and have tension with the rest of the region add a few extra nukes into that equation is going to make things a lot worse.
Nuclear weapons are totally unislamic BUT the threats from the USA-Israel-Saudi are really pushing them towards it because in the end they have to defend their people and country. Any country would do exactly the same thing and remember only ONE has been crazy and evil enough to use them! That alone scares the hell out of people in other countries who know that there are madmen out there who HAVE dropped them on human beings heads and you just need to read some of the comments here from THAT countries people to know that they would have no trouble in doing it again. They are THAT insane!
I got as far as line one and then had to laugh So the only nation on earth to use them is to be the regulator of others!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaarab!!! Crazy world isn't it! You'll be telling us next the pope is opening a gay nightclub in Berlin next! ooops...................!
America isn't the only country to not want Iran to have nukes, it is rather common sense why Iran shouldn't have them unstable region plus nuclear weapons doesn't work out well. There has to be a limit to who is able to have them and there are many countries who are in agreement, Iran doesn't have good enough security to be trusted with them.
What is the "priviledge".. My dad worked at Oakridge and then was an observer at Bikini Atoll.. and I never heard him mention priviledge.
I think you've got the wrong quote but even still we have to be aware of the potential risks of allowing certain people gaining very destructive weapons, we have to be aware of the risks of it and some people don't have good security and that mixed with nukes is not smart. Countries like Russia and China even though we may have disagreements they can be trusted.
Israel threatened to nuke the Saudi oilfields when they were losing in 1973.. Are they responsible actors?
Can't remember that specific event, I know threats were being made within that time, though Israel have always been too on edge for comfort a lot of times. Also I don't understand what your point is with the graph.
