A Plot to Overturn an American Election

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  1. MJ Davies

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    I wonder how many regret it?

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    https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/j...g-monday-expected-action-against-trump-allies

    This is the last one. We are expecting criminal referrals for Traitor Trump and some of his allies.

    I still can't believe that anyone would choose a person over our country and Constitution. It's just outrageous.

    34 texts with Meadows on J6.
    147 voted to overturn the election results with no evidence.

    My state's guy stood on the right side of history. I didn't vote for him but I am damn proud he stood up for our country in spite of great professional and personal losses. It's sad when we punish people for doing the right thing.

    This is a bittersweet moment. A long time coming.
     
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    Beyond the criminal referral of Trump, today we’ll learn if the J6 committee will refer McCarthy, Jordan, Perry, Biggs & Brooks to DOJ for prosecution for defying subpoenas, thereby concealing evidence of Trump’s crimes.

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    I truly hope this is the day your dreams come true and as I said in the other Jan 6th thread (of the day), I expect to see him in an Orange Jumpsuit by the end of the day. If not, we all can start making threads about what a HOAX it was
    I want your next post to be a picture of Trump behind bars since you clearly have all of this "evidence"
     
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    when it is part of a premeditated scheme to delay the joint session of congress counting of votes past the deadline so as to intentionally and deliberately throw the vote to the house (where Trump would have a two state advantage), including the installment of fake electors, including pressuring state's secy's of state to decertify and 'find enough votes to overturn a state's election" then yes, it's a plot to overturn the election
     
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    Oh, it sure as hell does apply.

    If repubs nominate Trump, then repubs have no credibility insofar as claims of 'supporting the constitution."
     
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...t-trump-for-jan-6-would-be-terribly-divisive/

    I never anticipated the day that I would agree with Traitor Trump on anything but that day is here. Pence is a p*ssy!

    Pence needs to SHUT THE HELL UP. He's the reason the psychopath has brought our country to its knees and is trying to torch our Constitution. He failed to honor his oath of office to, We, the People, only pushing back when his and his family's lives were in moral danger.

    He could have even said something in the interim to midterms but said nothing until midterms were closed. He even had the nerve to say that we are not entitled to his testimony. That, alone, makes him unfit for public office. Like Traitor Trump, if he doesn't want to or fails to uphold our laws, rules, regulations, policies and procedures, find a different line of work.

    Should a person not stand for their crimes because some ne'er-do-wells are mad? Why do we have a penal system if that is all that is necessary for a "Get out of jail free" card?

    Did any of these traitors ever consider that it's DIVISIVE to demonize and marginalize everybody else in this country for them to keep top billing?

    Spoiler alert: Nope.

    P.S. Please don't buy his book or Hagerman's or anybody else that didn't fire warning shots about the Orange Lunatic until they could make a buck off the juicy later.
     
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    If Trump is indicted and convicted, anyone who votes for him from that point onward cannot claim patriotism.

    If anyone votes for him prior to that point, their patriotism is debatable, given his actions with respect to:

    Reckless disregard national security for his gross mishandling of national defense information documents.

    His scheme with various co-conspirators to illegally subvert the election and retain power, despite his election loss.
     
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    Your comment filed in the 'pseudo debate tricks' file


    (which is to say, your trivialization of 1/6 is not a merit worthy argument.)
     
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    Question for you. What do you think of this?

    A President who commits treason should have their Supreme Court Justices rescinded.
     
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    Well, he wasn't elected the first time via the 'will of the people', so I doubt he will, if he is elected in future that the will of the people will have anything to do with it, it will be, like the last time, a fluke of the electoral college which gives too much power to rural areas, which is a structural issue not as predominant as it is now at the time the constitution was framed.

    If we are relying on 'the will of the people', only one republican has been elected to the presidency in 34 years, and that was G. Bush, on his second term.

    In my view, only 'majority' equals 'the will of the people'.

    Yes, and the reason why I believe that because the founding fathers NEVER intended on minority rule.

    Yes, they had issues with majority rule, which is the reason they created a bicameral legislature, and the three co-equal branches of government and the electoral college. but this idea that 'minority rule' equals 'the will of the people' is false.


    "...(a) fundamental maxim of republican government ...requires that the sense of the majority should prevail." --Alexander Hamilton
     
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    I agree, under the concept of the 'fruit of the poisoned tree" theory, which is a legal theory.

    I would go even farther than that in that if he is indicted and convicted, his SCOTUS appointments become null. This should be the next constitutional amendment.
     
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    They all should be indicted, if it is proven they were part of the conspiracy, should be removed from office.

    It's not illegal to contest a vote, but it is illegal to do it if it is part of an intentional scheme to deny the opponent the requisite 270 electors, and thus to throw the vote to the house, and those a planned, organized, premeditated coup.
     
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    I am so happy my standards have never been this low.

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    I believe the biggest issue is we've never had a career criminal mob boss as POTUS so they are probably trying to figure out how to hold all the co-conspirators accountable without toppling the entire stack of cards all the way up to SCOTUS. Unbelievable.

    The plus side is maybe we can stop being the world's police. ;-) and fix our stuff.
     
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    For sure and these even if the above doesn't pass.

    1. Thomas (everything I could type here would be a rule break. Ugh).
    2. Cannon (I think she may have been paid up front to torpedo her career so outrageously biased).
    3. 3 faithless ones on R v. W - misrepresentation/lying in hearings and violation of our Freedom FROM religion.
     
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    I always found it bizarre that Kyle Rittenhouse gets annoyed when people call him a "murderer". In my experience, the best way to achieve that is to not murder anyone.

    Same here. If Traitor Trump doesn't like being investigated for crimes, it only follows that he should stop committing crimes. And, it's quite hypocritical to wage war against our government agencies and justice system when he has used that very same system for decades to steamroll the little guy.

    Clinton and Graham tried to warn them. He's not stable, not even a little bit.

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    ""If Trump is indicted and convicted"" What if, what if, what if? "If Trump is NOT indicted and convicted," what are you going to about it...
     
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    Where has Trump been indicted? What am I missing..... show us the documents that the executive branch has.
     
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    Heads up non-MAGAs!!! Did everybody remember to stock up on ketchup? ;-)

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    This article repeats the concerns about Trump's authority over our military and what that meant in those crucial 187 minutes. At the time, there were rumblings that he refused to call for help despite the please from terrified officials because he was told the NG would protect the officials and the Capitol and he wanted them to protect his criminals.

    I've stated it at the time. I think J6 was a trial run to see how things would play out to replicate that. He gave a dog whistle to be prepared and look for anything strange in his case with DA James. Just a few days ago, he put them on notice against the DOJ and FBI. I don't know why he continues to commit crimes on camera but he apparently can't help himself.


    Pentagon Officials Feared Trump Would Try To Use Troops In His Jan. 6 Coup Attempt

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...d-try-to-use-troops-in-his-jan-6-coup-attempt
     
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    So Al Gore in 2000, also a "plot to overturn the election"? Or is this one of those situational ethics things where you think it's fine when your guy does it but not when the other guy does it?
     

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