A Question For All Liberals Who Keep Insisting That Jesus Was A Liberal.

I have never heard any liberals claim the Christmas holiday was stolen from them by Christians and it was their pagan holiday.

I have never seen anybody restricted from celebrating Christmas in the US.

I have said I don't think Jesus is like any Americans are today.

 

Jesus was not liberal, was communist. That is really different. Yes, his ideas are closer to the communism, and for example you have the Church of Liberation or the tolstoism as example of that.

Leov Tolstoi is a good example, of an anarchistic-communist interpretations of the Jesus teachings.

Jesus, said for example that a rich was really difficult for him to go the Heaven Kingdom. And many things like that, that indicate that Jesus was really progressist and with revolutionary ideas of his time of life.

If we consider just the teachings of Jesus, Christians should have a life closer to the communism rather to other styles of life.

 

It is irrelevant how you wish to label Jesus. It IS relevant how He labels YOU!

 

Jesus never once condemned abortion- even though abortion existed and even infanticide was common in the Roman empire.

Jesus was very clear that he considered sex outside of marriage- and divorce to be wrong and sinful. Jesus would have considered Ronald Reagan to be an adulterer, along with Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich and a very large percentage of our current political leaders.

And finally- what idiocy to call the majority of liberals to be atheists. It just displays pure ignorance. Roughly 6-8% of Americans do not claim to have a religion- lets call them Atheists, while around 22% of Americans consider themselves Liberals. I guess this is just an example of Liberal hating math.

 

The amount of funding the federal government gets gives them power over you and their trump card is the tax code.

I .. The great Phiilly Rabbit is going to:

Abolish the corporate tax rate and bring it down to zero and keep it there.

Go after congressional pensions and tear them in half .. At least half.

Slap turn limits on congress and all appointed federal and state judges which will stop appointed federal magistrates from governing the American community.

Abolish the IRS and implement a fair / sales tax.

And Barry .. I'm just getting started.

 

The tax collector was either a Roman or a Romanized Jew. That was who collected taxes at that point, and they were more like the Mafia than the IRS. Imagine if you were an American in a small Afghan town and you were collecting taxes from the locals at the point of a gun. Just how comfortable would you be living in that community? History is a wonderful thing: it's too bad most people don't pay attention to it.

 

Only people that are ignorant of historical facts don't understand this train of thought. Also, Christmas was not stolen from liberals, it was stolen from pagans. Pagans =/= liberals.

Some liberals are pagans and some pagans are liberals, but not all liberals are pagans. Do you need a vin diagram?

Because there isn't. Many liberals, believe it or not, celebrate christmas, too.

That is a new one on me. I don't think Jesus would be a registered anything. I think his views fall in line more closely with socialism. He was all about redistribution of wealth. The whole "give everything you own to charity" thing, like in Matthew 25 where he says:

"I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

He is saying if you denying help to those in need is as bad as denying help to him personally.

We live under a two party system. Most people don't realize that there are other doctrines aside from liberal or conservative. Because of that, they are considered by many to be polar opposites with no other choices existing.

To many, the statement "Jesus isn't a liberal" means that he must be a conservative.

 

Jesus has quotes about loving your enemy and selling all your stuff. I'd be more likely to go with his alleged actual words.

 

I am not Christian, however, I do know that Jesus looked at tax collectors from a different perspective than modern United States citizens do. Therefore, to try a justify Jesus as a liberal or a conservative is a bit revisionist. You can absolutely say Jesus believed in charity.

 

Oh excuse me, next you'll be telling us that HE condoned the infanticide of HIS children.

Yes, and thus we are all sinners in one way or another.

The idiocy in not calling the majority of liberals atheists would be to accept their irreligious anti GOD policies and viewpoints as being something praiseworthy by calling them Christians. Same sex marriages, sodomy, NAMBLA, pornography, abortion/murder, secularism, euthanasia, eugenics, multiculturalism, dual race bonding and desegregation are just a few of the anti GOD anti religious traits that liberals either support or engage in personally.

 

Love the corporate tax elimination!

Love the congressional pensions elimination too, and while you're at it...almost every congressperson shouldn't even be paid anything...they make enough from celebrity endorsements.

Term limits...maybe....

.....pushing judges around...defnitly not....the supreme court wouldn't allow it anyway....

 

That's because simple mided fools are selfrightous and greedy and have no concept of others or how they must participate in thier selfish group as a whole.

simple version: People are dumb and greedy.

 

Like arguing about whether Jesus was in favour of motor-bikes, isn't it? Obviously, within the limitations of his own time, Jesus was a socialist, as is obvious to anyone but Americans who have been prevented from knowing the meaning of political words. Read the Magnificat, everything Jesus said about rich and poor and see how the early Church lived in Acts. The problem is that so many Americans are so anti-Christian.

 

I like non-fiction. But there are better sources of entertainment than religion.
Like self help books, they do nothing for me.

 

I am saying that Jesus never mentioned abortion, yet repeatedly condemns adultery and divorce.

Why do you think he never told his followers not to commit abortions? He was very clear about adultery.


"Yes, and thus we are all sinners in one way or another."

According to Jesus yes we are. But a person who divorces and remarries is choosing to continue to sin, and if his wife re-marries, the husband has permitted his wife to continue to commit adultery also.

At the very least- Jesus felt that divorce and adultery were just as bad as sinful as murder- what you would call abortion. Yet you focus on abortion- not divorce. I find that odd, and rather selective Christianity.

And I would say that bigotry, race relation laws and segregation are just a few of the anti- Christian, anti-American traits that bigots and racists support and cheer on.

Hey- i bet you can quote me from the bible where Jesus says we should have different drinking fountains for black and whites can't you?

 

And just to make it clear the difference between Liberals and whatever Libhater is.

I am opposed to segregation, I am opposed to race mixing laws, and I am opposed to giving immigrants to America respect. Libhater calls me a Liberal for such views.

I am okay with that.

 

Jesus wasn't a social conservative compared to the social conservatives of his day. He brought hope and change. He walked among lepers and consorted with women of ill repute. He railed against the religious practices of his day and turned the establishment on its head.

 

jesus advocated personal responsibility and charity. also "if you dont work you dont eat" comes to mind. he would vote republican as a lesser of 2 evils imo. although i agree he would find fault in both parties. no political party will ever match his holiness.

 

Jesus loves those no one else would dare to love. Always has, always will.
We, as Christians, sadly are so far removed from His all embracing love, have become judgmental, bitter, hateful.
Those who call upon His name will be held accountable, more so than what we call sinners.

 

were all sinners. but jesus made it clear that there is a difference between befriending the unsaved and witnessing to them and simply communicating with them. fine line. joining up the democratic party and rioting amongst scoundrels and supporting "the mob" crosses that line imo. any christian who claims jesus christ, the living god, would associate himself with the democratic party today is a LIAR.

 

"For God so loved the world". That doesn't say anything about one party or another, one group of people or another, the lesser or more severe sinners.

 

what kind of out of context (*)(*)(*)(*) is that? loving the world doesn't mean approving of the world. the fact is if you vote straight democrat you, by association, support: abortion, homosexuality, laziness, and eventually...social anarchy. Good luck with that.

 

Labeling a guy who is said too have lived about two thousand years ago, with modern day political terminology is nothing more than an exercise is pure (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupidity.

 

Moses was a Whig.

 

Moses wore a wig.