A test for the faithful -- you can not prove that "God" exists, can you?

Iolo failed the test.

 

Welcome... ..did you attend AUB?

 

May I direct your attention here?

 

I have yet to fail this test. My prediction: I won't.

 

May I direct your attention here?

 

I am the one grading the test--it's my test.

 

OJLeb passed the test.

 

Thanks.

No, I am in Canada right now trying to get into U of A lol..... Why?

 

This is a public debate forum.

You are not God, nor are you science.

The question was: Can you prove God?

The standard, ostensibly is scientific basis - which is inconclusive - but the friggin' FSM meets that scientific evidential standard?

This is you asking people to confirm your preconceptions and ignorance, its not skepticism or asking people to challenge them - its asking people to join your cult.

Its a great big go screw yourself to everyone who disagrees by offering up your opinions as both fact and a standard for judgement. Its trite.

It deserves to be treated as such.

It deserves to be pointed out that it is neither scientific, evidential in any way, nor is based on any kind of objective standard.

Of course, to you, that is emotionally difficult to bear? Rude?

Not my problem. My problem are posters behaving like you do, and thinking it invalidates faith. It doesn't, and you know it.

Prove me wrong - apply your own standard to your faith and your test? I have, and we already see the result.

 

And why is someone aborting his own baby if the theory of Mr. Dawkins about the selfishness of genetic material (and its equivalent ideology "only egocentrism saves") would be indeed a natural law and a religious truth of atheism?

http://youtu.be/2R2NrV4ve1o

 

Evolution doesn't care about your own personal survival but about the survival of your genes and if that requires your death then that's what evolution will select for.

 

Hmm ... more non-sceince.

Evolution is supposed to about the survival of the fittest - not the survival of your genetic code through your death.

As long as atheists can crap on someone, they will twist science to support their opinion. Somehow though, evolution allows individuals to be rude? Perfect justification?

I've said it before, religion is not science, and sceince is not religion, and we the travesty of attempting to make science into a religion.

Another sceintific fail.

Loads of those in this thread today.

 

Your post, like the OP is flawed, illogical and based on emotion. The first and most obvious flaw The thread wan't started asserting there IS a God. This is one of the biggest flaws with many irrational atheists who are SO concerned with what others think. Why do you care? Why do you guys always beg for us to prove to you, the existence of something you can't understand?
I don't care what you believe. I don't judge you for it. Even though they constitute less than 15% of the world, I don't label atheists as being less intelligent, deluded or anything else. I'm simply not that emotionally attached - but obviously you are.

So again. Nope I can't prove it. Just like I can't prove there is love. I can't prove that Global Warming is man-made. I certainly can't prove there is life on other planets. And I can't prove there are things that are just plain beyond human comprehension.

Of course, scientific theory, based on the evidence man had to work with - given his limited understanding at the time, contended that the Earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it. That a complete fetus was found in the sperm of a man. That eating meat was essential for good health (remember the four food groups?) and so on.

But here's a question that reveals much: Why do you even care?

 

That other person suggested altruism was a result of evolution so that the species would survive. I agree with you.

 

So what is it selecting? Some people DON'T run in to burning buildings. Some heroes' children are selfish cowards...What's the mechanism at play here? Altruism is an intentional act of self sacrifice. Biology can't predispose one to that.

 

Evolution can select organisms that favor family building values, the notion of "families, or "packs" are found throughout the animal kingdom. The behavior to sticking to ones kin is not a purely human behavior.

 

Forming social units is not altruism or self sacrifice. You make a generalization that is not warranted.

 

Not too mention there are plenty of animals that do NOT do this.

And our closeste relatives do NOT live with the same social structures of moral codes that we do - nor indeed are silver backs noted for their altruistic behavior.

Atheism is skepticism of anything but the self.

Take a look, those who most aggressively question the faith of others? Have they EVER challenged their own faith?

 

"The evolution" selects nothing. "The evolution" is a theory about the successfull biological organisms. "The world" selects. If for example someone was not able to leave the World Trade center then "the world" selected him to death. The fire shooter Paddy Brown is a good example: A woman loved him and if he would had survived then perhaps he could be a father today - but now he is a dead hero and "only" his mind and braveness are impressing us any longer. He was not able to leave people alone who needed his help. He gave hope til the last minute of his life.

Sure it is important if a farmer cultivates a new crop. Nevertheless no one has any chance to cultivate a new Paddy Brown if he needs him. In my words I would say "He's gone home to his father and god will close him in his arms and will say to him 'Well done, I'm proud on you'". I would deny every form of language what speaks about him: "He was selcted from the evolution to die, because he stayed in the world trade center to help people." although it is a true sentence - but this is also a loveless, a hopeless sentence.

There is no intellectual conflict between evolution and creation - the conflict is on a deeper level a conflict between the religions "Atheism", "Materialism" and "Christianity", "Spiritualism". It's a conflict between an empty argumentism and hope.

http://youtu.be/dcTchJVaIWg

 

Of course it can and does.

If you have children and one sacrifices itself for the others then the others continue the gene line.

 

So again, my question is why do you care so much what I believe? You can't prove the Big Bang or Origin of Life. I'm not going to criticize your, claim you're less intelligent or insult you because you believe in those theories.
You can't prove there is life on other planets but I believe there probably is. And guess what? I don't care if you believe in life on other planets. I'm just not as emotionally attached to your belief as you and the atheists, are to those who believe in God.
The OP wasn't started by some deist asking you to make your case. So why do so many atheists continue begging for those with faith, to explain to them, something that is beyond their comprehension?
Why do you care what we believe?

 

Because people like you pass laws passed upon idiotic stone age belief systems.

Now, define what you think theory means.

 

Give me please a very concrete example with a real scientific background where such a behavior plays indeed any role for the survival of all mankind or any other species on this planet. I never heard that children are sacrificing themsleve for others. Children are not able really to do such decisions - they are only able to play as if they would do such decisions. Everyone who is forcing or manipulating children to do decisions they are not able to do is just simple a criminal - like for example in case of child-soldiers.


The picture shows Adolf Hitler speaking with children to motivate them to die for him.

http://youtu.be/uctHC15iii8

 

Of course, you take what I say out of context and Godwin it. Well done.

 

Bronze age - not stone age. Bad quality of TV programs in this age but the situation started to grow slowly more comfortable.

http://youtu.be/b5hHxZeuHqg