A Voter's Guide to Republicans

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I've seen this video before and every ******* should see this through to the finish line. Afterall, liberals should be gleeful that the guy in the video is highlighting the big 3 negatives of we Conservatives, which are...that we are................Greedy.....Fascist.....and above all.....Racist.

 

The most baffling of the three is how they get away with calling others racists when you look back at their history.

 

Bill Whittle makes some good videos.

I especially liked the bit on fascism in this video.

 

While I agree with that, I consider all three to be equally baffling after watching the video and after having lived 62 years exposed to excessive *******om.

 

If that's the case then shouldn't you consider changing your name to rightlegmoderate?

 

It's a play on words. (that I thought funny at the time of registering)

I lean to the right as if I only have a left leg... sometimes completely falling right. Yeah yeah... it's corny

 

I guess I'm referring more to how effective they've been on these points. There's a considerable amount of people that don't buy into the "class envy" bs (witness the 2010 elections). But Blacks still vote for Democrats in an 80%-90% clip, so they still don't get it.

 

More conservative "humor".

 

The guy is pointing out why individualism and freedom is so much better than collectivism and statism.

It's too bad that the republican party does not support the free market or individual freedoms.

 

I'm sorry; I'm doing to need some explanation.

Are you a "Manateeist"?

 

Yeah I dunno if people on the left are all just stupid or if it's a failure of education. But the GOP is basically the opposite of fascism, while OWS is essentially a fascist movement.

 

Republicans have turned America into an indisputably fascist society (along with big business democrats). When businesses write our laws and you can be arrested for wearing the wrong shirt you are definitely living under fascism.

 

The democratic party is essentially pro fascist while we believe in free market capitalism.

 

Wait! What?

Your usually glib trolling is reduced to three words?

It kind of proves the guys arguments are rather inarguable....and proves why most minorities vote democrat: he said it, it's a huge vote buying scheme.

 

You have everything backwards, upside-down and sideways. There is reality, off in the distance, and there is you, pedaling madly in the other direction at top speed. The magnitude of your wrongness is staggering to behold in its terrifying majesty. If inaccuracy could have gravity then your statement would not merely crush this planet down to the size of a grain of sand, it could conceivably rupture the fabric of the universe and end not merely the space-time of this cosmos but all possibility of anything ever having existed at all.

I mean, I strongly disagree.

The republicans are trying to manipulate the masses into desperation and poverty. And they'll tell you so, on this forum, if you stop to talk to them. Hungry, miserable people are willing to work for less money. That's the republican party's plan, it's insane, it's fascist, it's wrong, it's ineffective and it's criminal. It's a bad idea in every conceivable way in which an idea can be bad, and they feel incredibly righteous about it.

This is how it looks to me, anyway.

 

And, forgiving your over-blown rhetoric, your evidence of your claims is?

It is astonishing the level or propaganda in here...faced with video evidence of one thing, the liberals can only regurgitate the same old worn out idiom as if parrot-like repetition is fact.

Sigh.

 

The truth is not worn out. I don't blame you for being sick of hearing it, though.

Look, I don't like sounding like a partisan shill, but the fact of the matter is that the republicans have declared themselves to be the party of the 1%. If that's their strategy, fine. But I think that's completely freakin' nuts. It is completely freakin' nuts. I'm never proud to vote democrat but there is no other sane, practical option on the national scale.

Democrats: they're not republicans. So be it.

 

And again...just plain gibberish out of you. What are your comments based on? You're spewing out nothing but rhetoric.

 

I'm basing this on listening to republicans. There are a couple points that they keep repeating lately:

1) Rich people pay too much into the system and should have to pay less, or at least, not more. We ask too much already from those brilliant, productive, necessary rich people.

2) Poor people don't pay enough into the system and should have to pay more, especially if the rich people have to pay more. Poor people are lazy and greedy and have no motivation save the envy of their obvious superiors. Their lives do not matter. Their families do not matter. They should not be considered when judging how best to manage the economy.

You think this is a mischaracterization? I would love to believe that. Please, tell me which part you think republicans don't believe. Mostly what I get when I bring these things up to republicans is an attempt to justify the position I've described, not any attempt to claim that these are not accurate descriptions of the republican position.

Please, I'd love to be wrong about this. I would even be happy just believing that the republican position on the worth of 99% of human life is nuanced. Or that it's a question of strategy, and not goal, and republicans actually want everyone to be okay, they just disagree with others on the best way to achieve that. But no -- time and time again, in discussion with republicans, I'm told that the welfare of our fellow human beings, even our fellow countrymen, all the way down to the kids in our neighborhoods -- their welfare is not our concern, and we should busy ourselves with working harder for the rich. 'Cause they've got it rough, those rich people -- especially in America.

Am I wrong? Please, illuminate me.

EDIT: Quick note on my use of the word 'republican' ... I'm not equating this to conservatism. I don't think that what I described is a conservative opinion, at least not in America. It's a republican opinion. The overlap there is so much smaller than people seem to acknowledge.

 

You can create whatever straw man arguments you want, but I know personally I'm bored with it. How about this? In the original post, there is a video. How about staying on point and addressing what was said in the video, and using a substantive argument to disprove what was said? It's really not that hard to stay on point. Enough with going off on all the tangents.

 

The video is a republican complaining that people are mean to republicans. He attempts to characterize the accusation of greed as being purely propagandic. But republicans aren't accused of greed because it makes them look bad -- they're accused of greed because they tell everyone how great Ayn Rand is and how wonderful greed is for our society. And then they make passive-aggressive videos complaining that people are being mean to them.

It's nuts. Republicans don't want to be accused of being greedy? Stop championing greed so openly and self-righteously. Constantly accusing the other side of being greedy (because they want to live) will probably impress some of the people that the other side is greedy, sure ... but constantly talking about how proud you are of being greedy is going to impress more of the people that your own description of yourself is to be trusted.

Doesn't that make sense?

Same with racism. Same with fascism. The republicans made their own beds.

 

I'm not gonna watch your stupid ass video. Put down the words yourself so I can read them

 

Actually that's not what he said. He specifically made a claim that Democrats are trying to increase taxation, and questioned why Republicans are characterized as greedy when it's actually Democrats who want to take more money from you. Seems to me it's pretty hard to argue that point. And what's the reason for more taxation? First and foremost it's to pay for all the social engineering created by Democrats. It's also a fallacious argument to think increasing taxes will create more tax revenue (but no need to go over that again).

And your comments regarding what is said in the video about fascism and racism are also incorrect. Sounds to me like you want to manipulate it to make an argument that suits you. Perhaps you should re-watch it again. The points are pretty easy to understand, as is the history.

 

Ask me if I care