A woman who gets an abortion is like an Indian giver

Oh, brother, c'mon, it's hardly a "worldview "( WORLDVIEW!!! WHAT!!) ""of mindless pursuit of pleasure"" to have all the sex one wants...(did you think sex is the only thing in life???)

How does having sex say "to all be damned" ???

It doesn't...nobody is damned by two people having sex and it certainly doesn't damn ALL...., what a weird idea !!!!!!


Who said it was "mindless"? Although it's close, having sex doesn't mean one has lost their mind, sane people have sex...didn't you know that?

 

OK, folks, there's the idiotic, childish, illogical and totally stupid premise of the


TOPIC.


THAT is what you are using to sling insults.....


The OP made NO POINT and neither does calling people names even if they are not derogatory like Christian and Hedonist...

 

Why would anyone feel grateful their mother changed their diaper? What! That's asinine, NO one ASKED to be born....

"Mom" was doing exactly as she pleased in a HEDONISTIC fit of having a baby! DOING EXACTLY AS SHE PLEASED, a HEDONIST...

 

You have no valid foundation to judge anyone other than your own rules that exist in your mind
..yet you do....

 

I don't live for pleasure like a Hedonist....besides, you said you were comfortable with that label. You don't argue about ones faith. Yet I will defend that faith and you don't like it.

 

I know there are many that would hold you to task for that comment. My own Mother was not self serving. Most mothers have an inborn capability to love sacrificially which is the complete opposite of hedonistic baby killers. Sorry you have never experienced sacrificial love but that is the cornerstone of my faith that you hold in ridicule all the time.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
So what?



I see you still can't make an intelligent comment on the topic but ONLY insult others in your hedonistic christian way..

.YES, HEDONISTIC since you take great pleasure in insulting posters because you have no real argument or facts to present.

I have no idea what that off topic piece of drivel was about or how it related to the post of mine quoted...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Why would anyone feel grateful their mother changed their diaper? What! That's asinine, NO one ASKED to be born....

"Mom" was doing exactly as she pleased in a HEDONISTIC fit of having a baby! DOING EXACTLY AS SHE PLEASED, a HEDONIST...

That doesn't refute ONE word of the post of mine you quoted.


But I understand you.


When a woman does as you want her to it's "sacrificial" and just fine. If a woman does what gives her pleasure and has a kid SHE isn't hedonistic oh no...BECAUSE SHE IS DOING SOMETHING YOU WANT HER TO DO...

VERY hypocritical.


YOUR "pleasure" is sacrificial.

Other people's pleasure is "hedonistic "



And if I were you I'd watch it calling people "baby killers'....

 

And if your mother had had to make a choice between you having a sibling or you possibly not having a mother which should she have chosen to not be labelled " hedonistic"?

What if that choice were between giving you opportunities in life and regular meals or adding another mouth to feed - would she still have been " hedonistic.

 

Does any of that make sense? Real mothers are never hedonistic.

 

Hedonists tend to be "tattle tales".

 

Oh how I miss that puppy that was never born. And I miss that sister I would have had if my mother got pregnant a year later. Oh how I miss her we would be best friends in between curing cancer.

 

Is it easy for somebody who can never get pregnant to tell a woman it’s just a little sacrifice going through nine months of health risks, the agony of childbirth and just a mere 18 years of raising a child she cannot afford. You’re so sacrificial. Perhaps the cornerstone of your faith should be caring more about children who are born rather than show scorn for their mothers who can’t afford them

 

"Real mothers are never hedonistic' ???




Of course not , they are all selfless madonnas...and probably virgins, too .(sarcasm alert)

 

My mother mourned for that child she lost after 8 months of pregnancy. She really did. And She buried my little sister. By your sarcasm....I don't suppose you are made that way. Not even close.

 

Avoidance

Answer the question because these are real situations women find themselves in. A significant number of abortions are to women in stable relationships. With children

 

How many are abandoned? How many are raised but suffer deprivation and in some cases death from starvation

 

Your solution solves bad with evil.

 

How many find loving homes with non-hedonistic parents that value life and show them how to live in a way that is self sacrificial and rewarding to those that give to others? I have known many.

 

PROVE IT!

How many? Give the names and addresses of ALL these people you "know" about.


No, many children do NOT get adopted and actually "age out" of the system with no home ever being found.



Hilarious that you think you can "value life" but not be a hedonist......and it's sick and twisted to raise kids so that they think any ""pleasure is EVIL, EVIL I tell ya and you'll be DOOMED if you have the Evil of pleasure""

 

No it talks to reality

Abortion is not an American issue

It is a global issue. And women across the world face dilemmas like the one I posted every day

But it is easy to denigrate those who face hard choices

 

I live in America. I am only concerned about our laws. I understand Germany has a movement to legalize "necrophilia". That doesn't concern me either. If you believe abortion for convenience should be legal in America, I will speak out against you. I'm free to do that.

 

Yeah it is a high price to pay, if you look at it that way, just for a night, or day of pleasure. I have known "women" who couldn't get pregnant that gladly take on those 18 years of sacrifice if the one that finds herself pregnant would just endure the nine months of discomfort to save a life.

 

How silly...we fight for children to get what they need, you fight for zygotes

 

That was because your mother wanted this child and after eight months of pregnancy it meant it was viable. You see, those of us who are pregnant and are eager to have a child that we want and plan for, tend to personify it. If I had a miscarriage I would be devastated as your mother was But I would not feel the same way if I aborted something that wasn’t human yet and I felt I couldn’t care for it . An embyo weighing 1/10th of an ounce without a Developed brain or neural system is not a child. The same way an acorn is not a tree