Well this is a turn up for the books. Unable to get Netanyahu to agree to his preconditions for talks, Abbas has declared his vision for a Palestinian State http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/8981283/Abbas-plans-Israel-free-Palestine I am glad he has made his position known. Israel supporters will need to start to understand that getting a two state solution at this late date is going to cost Israel but the alternative is a one state solution with citizenship and equal rights for all - personally I do not mind which way it goes.
Isn't it wonderful that he has come out with his vision for his future nation. land swaps are not out of the question it seems but only for east jerusalem. \ so he agrees in principle to the idea of swapping land for peace. No mention of access between gaza and the west bank. Curious. Could it be he's basically written off gaza or does he think that two geographically dependent "states" wholly dependent on Israel for access can work? Without such unimpeded access, the alternative would make interchange of goods and people economically prohibitive. A nato force? interesting. for how long? can the Palestinians kick out nato or will they just replace Israel as the occupying force to ensure Palestine stays demilitarized? I believe him when he claims no Isarelis on palestinian territory. He wishes a judenfrei nation. Well, its the opening dance revisted. Almost like groundhog day, with each iteration only slightly different but the main issues depressingly the same.
Is Israel allowed to boot out every Palestinian they want if this happens? Or will the normal people come out and scream that they are evil for even thinking such a thing. Supposedly they make up ~20% of the population. (from wiki no clue if correct) I would love to see Palestine become a country, however the way their president is talking I don't think it's going to happen.
Since jerusalem is to be palestine, will the head bangers with curlers in their hair finally go home? Has anyone observed the women doing the negotiations for israel? That woman looks like she is mad for being alive.
The Israelis have two options: Palestine in most of the West Bank including a chunk of East Jerusalem, or. one state from the sea to the river, with 6 million Jews and 4 million Arabs.
Maybe the opposite is more workable: An Arab-free Israel. At least the Paleos' cards are on the table. What reason is there for Israel to negotiate their own destruction?
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. We are talking national existence. The equivalence is not only true but absolute.
ethnic cleansing is a war crime. adding it with massacres of tens of thousands of people, which would occur if Israel tried to remove its Arabs by force, and you have genocide, which is a crime against humanity.
When i claim no Arabs on Israeli territory - the pro Islamists arracked.. Why can't i want the same as Abu Mazen ?
Desire means nothing. Unless you believe in thought crime. Nevertheless, that argument works both ways.. A chicken and an egg. But the difference is, Israel are ACTUALLY doing ethnic cleansing. If somebody murders somebody, and somebody says they want to murder somebody but doesn't, then who is behaving worse?
because there are 1.x million Isarelis that happen to be arab. they hold Israeli citizenship. The same cannot be said for the jews who currently occupy palestinian land.
Tsipi Livni is an alleged war criminal. The 400 Palestinian children who were murdered over christmas, 2008/9 must have justice, along with the thousand other Palestinians who died. It is an affront to the rule of law that she is there at all- an affront which has been deliberated by the fascists in the Knesset. http://www.wanted.org.il/tzipi_livni_en.htm WANTED FOR WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY Anyone who has information about the suspect when she is outside of the Israeli borders, please report immediately to a human rights lawyer. Relevant for countries with universal jurisdiction.
No, but the Palestinians have offered Palestinian citizenship to squatters who want to stay in Palestine after the neoZionists withdraw. However, it's likely that the neoZionists will see that as the thin edge of the wedge of One State. Their extremists will want to stick with their apartheid delusions- or hafrada as it's called in Israel.
Have they? I know this was an idea put out and I would think it would be a good one as part of a parcel for lasting peace - offering citizenship to settlers who have not acted criminally towards the Palestinians, but I haven't heard this as an official policy.
When I first heard of such offer I was amused, no way this will happen, even if the jewish settelers will somhow agree- they will be butchered, however, if i do try to imagine it then some of the settelers may actually be mad enough to stay, they see the land sacred not the state and if the Palestinians will be proffessional enough to live with them - know what, it can actually work, I agree, that would be the start of true peace.
SO , can you comment about the Jewish Nakba ?!! 850000 Jews were forced / expelled from their homes in Arab countries between 1948 - 1973 ? Was is a carime against humanity ? If you agree, please let us know why this FACT not being learned in fifth column Arab schools ???
Moon are you suggesting that she is responsible for more deaths, than a NAZI? Imagine if people hunted down every Israelis war criminal. Tel aviv would be a ghost town.