ABC = ALP campaign stooge

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  1. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    The Problem Gambler Poker Machine Legislation....whatever its being called
    shouldnt even be in existence.....its a one man band run by Independent
    Member Mr Wilkie....since when can one man have so much power....
    sorry I forgot Gillards in his pocket.......and yes...what a coincidence
    that the ABC runs this gig.........
     
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    I've seen a few of the presenters on ABC TV with blatant differences in treatment of guest based on there political beliefs. One of the ladies was caught by an early cross back to here making a mocking laugh to her cohost whilst a Liberal guest was speaking on a rather non-controversial topic. I've seen one their males hosts get red in the face with furry asking the same question over and over, because he couldnt get the answer he wanted in the phrase he wanted from a Liberal guest to a caged question, even though the answers being given were accurate and concise.... and yet the same people with ALP guests are all laugh and just repeat the guests speech as part of the next question so its like a coach ride.

    The problem with TV is as long as someone is on the channel it goes straight into their brain irregardless of how much attention they are actually giving it. I think there is a real TV bias in favor of the ALP on all channels except for the Bolt report - which only exists as a reaction to what Im talking about. Whilst Murdoch might lean right and own lots of newspapers, most people do not listen to AM radio and most people do not pay much attention to newspaper - wheras TV influences people much more.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Ahh, yes. The Bolt report. I fail to see how anyone could aplaud he recent court decision against Bolt. Although Bolt left himself open to criticism by letting his guard down in his research, the spirit of his report on "white aborigines" cashing in on aboriginal aid funding is spot on.
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    The ABC has always been heavily biased in favour of Labor and anti conservative. They and SBS are virtually Labor campaign agents.
     
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    good way to create a **** free zone - bring up a subject like this one
     
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    add GETUP to that list...
     
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    "the spirit of his report"?!?!? You mean defamatory statements?

    The racist got caught breaking the law. It is sad other racists want to defend him.
     
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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    (BTW - "it is "cynical")
     
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    How about the loss of money put into jnr sports teams by the clubs?
    loss of jobs
    the FACT that it WONT help problem gamblers
     
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    How about the loss of money put into jnr sports teams by the clubs.

    Could you tell us what that loss will be?
    Or are you just making things up?

    Or did you hear Jonesy say that ?

    And the "FACT" that it WONT help problem gamblers

    WTF?!?!

    What "FACT" is this?

    Is this a Bolty style "FACT"? You know... a lie?


    Please explain to us how promoting problem gambling helps junior sports teams.

    Details please. Not just "Abbotisms".
     
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    I will take this slow as i know that you are not the full quid....
    Less money into club venues = less money into jnr sports clubs they sponsor.. jesus thats a bloody simple thing to understand even for you.






    Problem gamblers will just set a really high limit for themselves OR turn to other forms of gambling such as the horses or online.
    you really need to think things out BEFORE embarrassing yourself bugs




    You are getting very boring with the constant abbot beat ups..
     
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    I understand the poker machines will cost $1000 each to recalibrate
    so as players will not lose more than $120.00 per hour. This will cost
    clubs overall, millions of dollars. Two clubs on the Gold Coast have said
    they will close. Problem gamblers were interviewed on television and stated
    that they would just go from club to club if the legislation came in, and that
    they would prefer extended counselling. Having said that I feel that poker
    machines are insidious, and that Australia has an extremely serious problem
    with wall to wall gambling, combined with an over abundant supply of
    alcohol, which will never reduce, due to liquor and gambling taxes
    collected by state governments.
    I think if the Federal Government (whoops...Mr. Wilkie) was serious about
    gambling reform, they would ban all forms of advertising, and spend more
    money on counselling...
    You cannot stop problem gambling by just recalibrating poker machines...
    that is ludicrous and a pathetic attempt by Wilkie...unless its a pre-cursor
    to the aforementioned...but I doubt it....
     
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    Nonsense.

    Most pokies are already low impact. And a simple software fix will not cost "$1000 each to recalibrate".

    Stop spreading the silly Clubland lies.

    Opposition to pokie reform is simply indefensible. Even Abbot realises this.

    Where is the Liberal Party policy??!?!? Hello.....?!?!?1
     
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    bugalugs Banned

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    So no.

    You can't tell us how much money from problem gamblers is used for junior sports.

    you are just making things up.

    No one wants to ban pokies remember...just have pre-commitment levels for the high-impact machines.

    How does this impact junior sport?!?!?







    So how does this affect junior sport?

    Not at all it seems?

    What is actually wrong with pre-comittment for high-impact gambling?

    Can you tell us?
     
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    Careful, those ankles of yours are developing RSI from all that side stepping!
     
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    Yes - that is why I always get my news from the Murdoch papers. That nice Mr Bolt is just so honest and impartial.
     
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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    Or will you just continue to avoid the question? You seem to be the only one sidestepping here.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Firstly, why don`t you convince us why your views on the actual topic are correct? Try talking straight this time.
     
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    If you want Liberal policies like most other Australians, then you have to vote Liberal.

    The Liberals are in oppossition so they arent the ones that 'need' to have working policies finalized and on the table. The ALP whilst in oppossition hardly ever had any policies until the last weeks before an election so lets not start applying double standards. That's why they had to spend 18 months doing reviews and having comittees, and to look busy they trotted out stupid programs which wasted money and cost lives.
     
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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    This is the 3rd time you have been asked now? Why is it so hard to answer?

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals. Why? Isn't is just a simple fact that most people see pokie reform as a very good idea?

    No conspiracy theory is necessary really. Unless you think poker machine reform is not a good idea - but you have been asked 3 times now to explain why someone would think this, but you appear incapable of answering
     
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    You have totally missed the point again. - FAIL.
     
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    And you have totally failed to answer the questions so

    MEGA FAIL
     
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    The question was answered....you might wanna read the whole thread...
     
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    Just when we thought the practice of sucking lead pencils in schools had been eradicated.
     

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