ABC = ALP campaign stooge

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  1. bugalugs

    bugalugs Banned

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    No - the question wasn't answered.

    aussiefree2ride has avoided the question everytime he was asked.

    And you just spouted some nonsense you made up about pre-commitment levels for the high-impact machines somehow impacting upon junior sport. Making stuff doesn't really count. (You can ask your mate Bolty about that.)
     
  2. bugalugs

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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    This is the 4th time you have been asked now? Why is it so hard to answer?

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals. Why? Isn't is just a simple fact that most people see pokie reform as a very good idea?

    No conspiracy theory is necessary really. Unless you think poker machine reform is not a good idea - but you have been asked 4 times now to explain why someone would think this, but you appear incapable of answering
     
  3. aussiefree2ride

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    You are going around in circles, stick to the topic. The topic FYO is, the weak ALP fed gov is pandering to Wilke, the ABC is pandering to the ALP. The incredibly simple plot is, referring once again to the story in the OP, if poker machines were totally totally banned, problem gamblers would still be at the mercy of criminal gangs. It`s very simple really, but the thrust of the topic is the amazing convenience of this story being aired by the ABC, just when this pathetic ALP fed gov is on the ropes.

    Think about it. Please try not to embarrass yourself with feeble little side steps.
     
  4. dumbanddumber

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    Hey you guys imo we are being conditioned to gambling.

    Watch some footy on tv and you are bombarted with betting odds etc.

    As a matter of fact watch any sporting event and there are the odds who will do this and that and what not.

    For starters imo we should ban the advertising of gambling on tv, i think some that haven't caught the gambling bug might be saved this way.

    As for the ones infected its probably harder to break than heroin addiction.

    In the early years of life i had a mate who would work hard all week and come payday just pump his 40 hour effort into pokies and horses, all within a day so after pay day he was broke again, dont know what happened to him since any sort of reason as to why he shouldn't be doing that ending in arguements and heated exchanges.

    But that threw me right of gambling, i may buy a tatts ticket once a month and play on the melbourne cup, but hey that money is for throwing away, i dont bet to become a millionaire or to end all my problems its just for fun.

    I say a good start is to get gambling ads of TV.
     
  5. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I agree with what you say D&D, however, our national broadcaster shouldn`t be used as a political tool, for either party.
     
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    I agree that no broadcaster private or government should be influenced by political parties.
     
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    Whilst we have wall to wall gambling 24/7 and an over abundance of liquor,
    the politicians wont do a thing about it, due to the taxes raised...the only reason
    Wilkie is going on a one man crusade is that his brother has/had a serious
    gambling problem...there are many different ways to stop problem gambling
    but the state governments wont bite the bullet because they havent got the guts....therefore problem gambling will never go away, itll just get worse...
    Im waiting for someone to stop "schoolies week" here on the GC but no-one ever
    will...............
     
  8. bugalugs

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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    This is the 5th time you have been asked now? Why is it so hard to answer?

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals. Why? Isn't is just a simple fact that most people see pokie reform as a very good idea?

    No conspiracy theory is necessary really. Unless you think poker machine reform is not a good idea - but you have been asked 5 times now to explain why someone would think this, but you appear incapable of answering


    Why?

    Do you see conspiracy theories in everything?

    Pokie reform is a good idea. Pokie reform is not an ALP initiative, but it is a good idea


    You have been asked 5 times to answer a question.

    Why cant you do it?
     
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    So - you are saying it should NOT report on a story about problem gamblers being recruited by drug dealers?!?!?!

    Why?

    Isn't that a valid story?
     
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    Whether Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea or not is not the issue. Poker machine reforms is not the issue either.
    What has been proposed is that the Labor government is pandering to Wilkie purely because they want his support for other things and secondly that the ABC is running stories purely for the purpose of giving support to the Labor government so they don't look so much like they are pandering to WIlkie.
    In my opinion that is exactly what is going on.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    You still don`t get it, it`way over your head.
     
  12. bugalugs

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    Exactly. They are not issues. They are sensible. So why are people making them issues?


    Exhibit A - some Jones fan trying to make a non-issue an issue.

    So - you are saying the ABC should NOT report on a story about problem gamblers being recruited by drug dealers?!?!?! Why?

    How is that not a story?


    You don't have opinions. That has been well established. You are just one of Jonesy's echo chambers.
     
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    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    This is the 6th time you have been asked now? Why is it so hard to answer?

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals.

    Why can't you tell us what is so bad about poker machine reform?

    Why have you avoided answering a question 6 times?
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Why don`t you tell us why you have no objection to public owned media (ABC) acting as a propoganda agent for the ALP?
     
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    So why are YOU making them an issue?

    What non-issue am I trying to Make? All I have done is paraphrase the original proposal in an effort to get people like you back onto the subject.

    Up to your old tricks again Bugsy? Putting words into other peoples mouths, deliberately misconstruing the basic premis at hand, nit picking, hair splitting and trying to lead people off topic.
    But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just an imbecile and not someone who is inteligent enough to be sneaky and underhanded.
    Nobody is saying the ABC should NOT report any particular thing. What is being questioned is the purpose and timing of the reporting.


    I have never listened to Alan Jones in my life. There is no radio station that can be received where I live that broadcasts Alan Jones.
     
  16. aussiefree2ride

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    AM, when we see people who can`t address simple issues, who`s thought process is scattered and undisciplined, we get an insight into the feeble minded thought process that brings them to illogical conclusions. Furthermore, a weak minded individual is severely handicapped in the commercial world, limiting their earning potential, which in turn breeds a mind set of envy, further limiting their decision making process.

    I suppose we should pity these poor simple folk, but I admit that I just find their contortions mildy amusing.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    6 times is it?


    I haven`t been counting, but even if I had been counting, I wouldn`t be as uncharitable as to point out that anyone could completely miss a simple point for such an extended period of time. It wouldn`t be fair to embarrass my fellow human being in such a condescending manor, even if it is funny. However, since you brought the fact to the attention of the world, I`d like to take this opportunity to wish you well in the future, and hoping that life isn`t too hard on you.:)
     
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    Because the is no evidence that public owned media (ABC) acting as a propoganda agent for the ALP.

    It is a silly figment of your imagination. You however seem to have issues about poker machine reform. This is why you have dreamt up this bizarre conspiracy theory of yours

    Why?

    Could you provide one single reason why you think Wilkie's pokie reforms are a bad idea?

    Just one?

    This is now the 7th time you have been asked now? Why is it so hard to answer? You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals.

    Why can't you tell us what is so bad about poker machine reform?
     
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    You haven't "missed a simple point" - you have responded each time I asked the question. But each time you fail to answer the question. Why?

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals. Why can't you tell us what is so bad about poker machine reform?
     
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    I am not the one dreaming up conspiracy theories involving the ABC


    Your words:
    the ABC is running stories purely for the purpose of giving support to the Labor government so they don't look so much like they are pandering to WIlkie.


    Nice conspiracy theory champ. Jonesy will be so pleased with you.

    Your words:
    the ABC is running stories purely for the purpose of giving support to the Labor government so they don't look so much like they are pandering to WIlkie.


    Nice conspiracy theory champ. Jonesy will be so pleased with you.
     
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    He caught the 'pretend, welfare dependent' aboriginals with their collective hands in the cookie jar. No wonder they hated him and took him to court, a court that had all the trappings of the Middle Ages' Star Chamber.
     
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    I can`t understand these people either. To suport the ripping off of aboriginals is beyond my comprehension.
     
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    The racist got caught breaking the law. It is sad other racists want to defend him.

    Defamation is ilegal
     
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    He told lies and was caught doing it.

    I guess you don't understand that either.

    You have implied in the OP that there is some sort of conspiracy involving the ABC and the poker machine reform proposals. Why can't you tell us what is so bad about poker machine reform? THis is the 8th time you have been asked now.
     
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