Your claim is complete BS - as usual. The vast majority of women who want abortion legal - want it legal because they want control over their reproductive process... not to practice eugenics.
There is no reality in which killing unborn babies is not 'wrong', when compared to the far better alternatives of contraception and/or abstinence - both much easier to obtain and implement. You may have decided it's reasonable, but that's your concession to work through. Ego? I'm all about the unborn child, not the feelings of irresponsible adult women. Good luck with your continued efforts to make that seem bad.
Ok. When you come up with an effective contraceptive that people will adhere to you can get back to us Until then...........
Why the **** would any sane woman want to do that? It is not as if abortion was a “fun” thing to do. Why would ANY woman anywhere use abortion as contraception?
Define rape Does “no” really mean “no”? There was a thread on here asking if it was OK to have sex with a woman too drunk to say “yes”. It is then we get into all sorts of issues relating to drink spiking and even just plying some young woman with enough alcohol to diminish her ability to say no Define medical necessity” and I REALLY REALLY want to see your definition of THAT one! As to the “shaming” well of course you prefer that. Makes you feel good yes? Does stuff all to reduce the abortion rate
Women are fertile for a loooong loooong time. Are you telling me that the woman who had an abortion as a teen can now not have one in her fifties?
You need to fiddle with the definition of rape (resulting in pregnancy) now? Gosh .. you really are on the back foot. Medical necessity means when the benefits outweigh the risks, in a potentially life threatening situation. Women do experience conditions and disease states which render them unable to safely carry a pregnancy to term. Google is your friend, if you want to know what these are. Shaming has nothing to do with me personally. I understand it as a very important social tool. It's been used effectively since forever .. and if you think we don't still use it in the West, you're choosing not to see it.
FoxHastings said: ↑ And no one should be shamed when they have done nothing wrong. Ya, that ego problem, people whose egos are so inflated they think that ,like god, they should decide what is right or wrong, moral or immoral and try to force those beliefs on others....egotistical people want others shamed into doing their will because they have this sick god syndrome and twisted need to control. others... You may have decided abortion is unreasonable, but that's your problem to work through. NO, you are NOT all about the unborn child , you seem more about hating and insulting women and thinking life should be a fairy tale utopia rather than facing the real world... There is NO law that says anyone has to use contraceptives or give up sex ( I have found that only people with very low-to-no sex drive think giving up sex is easy) History has proven that humans will not give up sex and to keep bleating it hysterically hasn't changed a thing nor will it Have you tried standing on a street corner screaming "Give up sex!" ???? Did it work?/
...and if you can't see that shaming has NEVER stopped human beings from having sex or abortions then you are choosing not to see it.
How ever many she wants...they are not rationed...if a person breaks their arm 20 times they still get care on the 21st......
When did I say it could actually stop humans from having unprotected sex? It's about trying to limit the number of aborted babies, by passively encouraging responsibility. If you think that's unreasonable, I'm sorry for your soul. And once again ... shaming was always, and still is, a very important social tool. All of us do it, all the time.
Over thirty plus years? You tell me Then tell me how many do have more than two over that time period
No it is a useless tool I what ways will it stop abortion? Will people have less sex? Will they use condoms properly? Research has shown shaming decreases compliance
When the choices on the table are: the potential life of an innocent or the ego/feelings of adult women, what kind of absolutely putrid human being would I be to choose the latter? Meantime, the real world involves choices. The defence of those who have all the freedom and resources to make the right choice (and it's always the right choice to prevent, rather than to attempt to cure via the most drastic measures imaginable), yet still make the wrong choice, is where the failure to accept reality lies.
Research of whom? White Americans in the 20th or 21stC? Kids from the terrible broken homes that Westerners specialise in, who have no context for social cooperation or social responsibility?
More on “shaming” https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03...moting-abortion-michael-paget-opinion/8314170 Shaming can increase abortions
https://scholar.google.com.au/schol...1&q=research+abortion+social+acceptance&btnG= Go for it You are the one claiming that shaming is a valid approach Convince me
It works both ways. When the choice is human liberty or your delicate feelings, what kind of putrid human beings would we have to be to reject liberty?
Shaming does not increase abortions unless there is ALREADY a problem with the particular woman. Do you understand how shaming works? It starts at birth, and it is a whole 'village' obligation to keep the pressure up. It's not an individual response to an individual, regarding an individual action. It's setting up a social limit to behaviour .. for the long term harmony and stability of the 'village'. No one is singled out .. it's a broad expectation of responsibility.
