Abortionists Admit to Killing Infants that Survive Abortion

technically it is.

Cows often 'miscarry' or abort their own calves for various reasons.

the term miscarriage is just a kinder word used to describe the loss of a baby due to circumstances beyond a woman's control

 

wrong again, you did not.

someone that would work at an abortion clinic IS an abortionist regardless of their job:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abortionist



a·bor·tion·ist   /əˈbɔrʃənɪst/ Show Spelled[uh-bawr-shuh-nist] Show IPA
noun
1.a person who performs or induces abortions, especially illegally.
2.a person who favors or advocates abortionas a right or choice that all women should have: usually intended as an offensive term.

 

From your source:

He didn't perform abortions, according to your source. He DELIVERED live babies and killed them. That's infanticide, not abortion.

 

You are right. Don't know why I didn't pick up on that.

 

That's okay, I didn't either. I need to pay closer attention next time!

 

Yeah, they called it an abortion clinic but it was not one. This clinic delivered live babies AND THEN KILLED THEM. DERP DERP DERP. Is it really that hard to get that through your thick skull? Let me help you.

You cannot abort someone once they've been born.

a·bor·tion/əˈbôrSHən/
Noun:
The deliberate termination of a human pregnancy.
A miscarriage.

Sorry, but once a woman is no longer pregnant she cannot have an abortion, true story.

 

LOL!

so you are saying that this abortion clinic didn't perform abortions?

why do they call it an abortion clinic and not a birth center?

and if all they did was allow women to come there and have babies (completely without assistance) then KILL them, wouldnt' there be MORE murder charges? Or are you saying the entire operation, the rental of the building, the liscensing, the hiring of employees were all for a handful of murders?

talk about thick skulls? derp derp derp. (how very mature by the way...)

these women came in for late term abortions, the doctor performed the abortion but the babies were born alive and then were killed. An abortion is the termination of a human pregnancy (YOUR OWN WORDS); it says nothing about 'death of the fetus.

this isn't hard to understand, it just doesn't fit your tiny world view.

 

Look, you're the one who posted the article. But apparently you didn't even read the (*)(*)(*)(*) thing.

Allow me to post it again.

I don't know why they're not charging more murders because they clearly DELIVERED LIVE BABIES and then MURDERED THEM.

What part of DELIVERED LIVE AND THEN MURDERED is NOT an abortion procedure do you not understand?

I could call a mosque a church and then start teaching the people who walk into it about Islam. That doesn't suddenly make the mosque a church or mean that I am teaching people Christianity.

Just like this so-called 'abortion clinic' which was definitely not one. This was, as Grannie put it, a chop shop. It was designed to appeal to desperate women seeking abortions. But then they delivered live BABIES and then this man and his staff murdered them outright. There were no abortions performed.

Tell me though. Which abortion procedure did this man perform? Suction-aspiration? Dilation and curettage? Dilation and extraction (aka partial birth abortion as dubbed by the lifers.)

Which of these procedures was performed if any? If you know which abortion procedures were performed here please post them.

 

The fact remains that it is a small step from fetal homicide (abortion) to other homicide (killing a newborn).

 

Yet the millions of women who had abortions are not making headlines for being murderers, which makes your remark silly at best.

 

The point between being physically attached to a woman and not being physically attached to her is a huge one. It's not a small step at all. It's a very important moment because when the fetus becomes a baby it has become it's own individual person and no longer needs the physical nutrients from it's mother to survive (although it does need social assistance from any adult caretaker, which is where adoption comes in if the parent is unwilling or cannot care for the child).

Once the baby is no longer physically attached to the woman she has no right to attempt to remove it from her own body, what would be the point after all since it's been born?

That's the whole intent of abortion you know. To remove an unwanted entity from the body but since the baby isn't physically attached there is nothing to remove. If she doesn't or cannot care for it at that point it needs to be turned over to social services, not murdered with scissors.

 

Not in the least, since abortion homicide is legal,

 

you are the one twisting yourself into a pretzel to somehow make this NOT about abortion.

so explain THIS to me...what is illegal about delivering a baby?

the article does say that...he was illegally delivering babies in the third trimester. Now it doesn't really require a lot of thought or a PHD in logical reasoning to understand that means abortion..since in fact delivering a baby in the third trimester is NOT illegal. (if it were, there would be literally thousands of doctors in jail, now wouldn't there?)

this is about abortion, it is about the cheapening of life and the slippery slope.

 

The article actually says, "...he regularly and illegally delivered live, viable babies in the third trimester of pregnancy -- and then murdered these newborns by severing their spinal cords with scissors."

Delivering and then murdering babies is illegal.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth. Seems that reading comprehension is very minimal around here.

 

Also unless you're certified to deliver babies it would be illegal to deliver them under the guise of an ob/gyn who does. Wiki says;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

So there you go Injest. Illegal delivery of infants and murder of said infants.

I am still waiting for you to post the names of the abortion procedures that this man performed though.

And I am pretty sure one must have some certification in either obstetrics and/or gynecology before they can perform abortions as well.

 

Not at all. Nothing you have posted proved my assertion wrong. It is a small step from killing a child in utero to killing a born child. especially for a third party abortion shop.

 

I wasn't talking about you Whaler. I have you on ignore and generally pick and choose your posts at this point if I feel I need to see where the debate is going.

How presumptuous of you though to think we're always talking about you.

 

Is it? By what measure and if it is who takes those steps and how often? Do you have any data or this is just more of the typical unsupported assertion that you usually make?

 

I know for a fact that there has been a case of a fetus surviving (for a time) a later term saline-type abortion, I can't post the story I know it from my mother working in the NICU so everyone can refute it if they like but it has happened.

I am pro-choice, but I do feel that the US needs shorten the elective period we currently allow. Abortions can be the right choice for some, but 6 months is way too long to make that choice.

 

Saline abortions are very rarely if ever used anymore. 88% of all abortions happen during first 12 weeks of pregnancy. Saline abortions only happen for second trimester abortions. Dilation and evacuation is the more preferred method for second trimester abortions and it is also much safer than an instillation or saline abortion.

 

Do you have any evidence that the infanticide rate has increased since RvW? If so, present it; if not, stop making the assertion.

 

The story the OP is based on is proof enough.

 

I have posted it repeatedly!!!! Abortion rates and infantcide rates are one and the same as far as I am concerned.

BTW, I will make the assertion as often as I want. It is at least as well supported as any of your BS.