Abortionists, why have kids just to sacrifice them?

It's realy not a win, when you factor in all the drugs she has to take just to stay alive and keeping the body from attacking the foreign organ. I couldn't even imagine the pain she's going through daily.

 

SO you are saying taking a few drugs is worse than dying. NO, I assure you that you are wrong here. She continues to work a full time job and the only real restriction she has is limited sun exposure. Trust me, you are wrong here. She is NOT going through substantial pain daily as a result.

 

SHE may not be, but I bet millions of others are sufferieng and would rather die than to keep taking the poison scripts from doctors.

Your aunt is the exception.

I can't name one person in my family where the drugs didn't make their situation worse. most of them are already dead. the ones that are alive are either mentally gone(dementia) from side effects of the drugs or their bodies have deteriorated from them.

IMO, nothing good can come from man-made drugs. nothing. So yes, a person is better off dead than living in contant pain and ailments.

It's just a money racket for Doctors, that's all.

 

Since when is it better to dies than suffer?

 

Why do you continue to embarass yourself posting these lies? The Unborn Victims of Violence Act is a federal law that does what you say only religions and an individual woman can do.

 

You clearly dont know what you are talking about. As a person with background in medicine, I can assure you that modern long-term immunosupressants used for preventing transplant rejection do not have the serious side effects as you describe, and by far the most patients are happy that they got a transplant and can live on, and would never chose death over taking their medicine. Your anecdotal evidence is not really a credible argument against transplantations.

For those who really do not want to continue living with serious condition which causes suffering, voluntary euthanasia should be available IMHO. But its the decision individual patient himself should make. Banning all transplantations because the organs come from a biologically alive human body, which is killed in the process, and because of your dubious anecdotal evidence against the benefits of transplantations is simply crazy.

 

Nope. While prehistoric humans (hunters-gatherers) and human ancestors consumed greater proportion of plant based food than modern humans, they always had some proportion of meat in the diet, from fish or hunted land animals. Totally vegan diet is not healthy for humans, without supplements.

 

Why not advocate for infrastructure which can render the need for a medical procedure of abortion obsolete in modern times?

 

Why not outlaw abortion to incentivize prevention?

 

Simply because you are willing to do it with the coercive use of force of the State, instead of the subjective value of morals.

 

This is not a rational reason. If you want prevention measures to be taken seriously, you must take away the after the fact "fix" that committing an abortion homicide provides.

 

It is more ethical to provide infrastructure which can prevent the need for the medical procedure of abortion, than to simply resort to the coercive use of force of the State, without providing such infrastructure.

 

When the entire situation is based on voluntary behavior and can be prevented by personal responsibility, there is no ethical responsibility on the part of the state or other govt entity to place such "infrastructure" in place.

What you are describing is a "nanny state" situation, which is irrational and non sustainable.

 

the same could be said of advocating the coercive use of force of a secular and temporal State to accomplish something similar.

 

If you want prevention measures to be taken seriously, you must take away the after the fact "fix" that medical care after car crashes provide.

See? By the same logic we should not help those who got in a car accident by not respecting preventive traffic laws. Faulty logic.

 

of course you're a Doctor. Everybody is....online.

Fact is, you don't have to be a Doctor to know that a transplant organ is a temporary fix with a 100% death rate from complications. Our bodies are unique all the way down to our blood cells. So common sense tells us that an organ that has foreign cells in it, will be attacked by the host. period. That's how the body works. But you're a Doctor you should already know that.

Obamacare is already putting this idea into progress with his death panels the are coming in 2013.

dubious anecdotes? more like COMMON SENSE.

oh and btw, I'm married to a Nutritionist. So you can't snow me under with the BS preached by Doctors to pump up their bottomline. I know better.

 

Of course. Your point? We all die eventually. Life has a 100% death rate. But patients live longer with transplantations than if they dont get them. Often even decades longer.

Transplantations are not being done to healthy people, but to those who would otherwise die.

Transplantations kill people. Common sense! Yeah..

 

Ecclesiasticus 24: 14-17

14 Better is the poor being sound and strong of constitution a rich man that is afflicted in his body
15 Health and good estate of body are above all gold and a body above infinite wealth
16 There is no riches above a sound body and no joy above joy of the heart
17 Death is better than bitter life or continual sickness


And you're wrong again. . It's KIDS out there that need transplants such as kidneys, and hearts. but as the verse explains above, they would be better off dead than to live in the pain and suffering and overwhelming debt caused by money-hungry Doctors.

 

Then you agree that abortion is better than birthing a child who would be forced to live in a home where s/he is unwanted?

 

As you so amply have demonstrated.

 

Except of course those who would be born into it. Those must suffer to satisfy the other part of your religious zealotry and the blatant hypocrisy does not even bother you.

 

NO, I don't agree. my belief is in line with the word and what I posted.

Nowhere stated in my last post do you see the verses in agreement with abortion.

 

what you're demonstrating is your ability to troll at will.

 

Nope.

you're confusing your murderous abortion clinics that don't know the outcome of the child before they kill it vs. an actual child being born with cerebal palsy or collapsed lungs or something worse.

So the Abortion racket is just that, a racket for monetary gain. nothing more.

and I seriously doubt Planned Parenthood gives a rip about Bible verse either.

 

Does your Bible verse make that distinction?

Pro-life groups are the only ones profiting from abortion, like this example:

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/12/16/pro-choice-groups-look-to-profit-from-tim-tebows-popularity/

Planned Parenthood is non-profit.

What Bible verse teaches against abortion?