Advocate tells lawmakers of ‘stealth’ efforts to influence Supreme Court

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  1. Condor060

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    You can always tell when someone post a fake OP and can't defend it.
    Proof being the following post when they can't even stay on topic of their own OP

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    Then comes the off topic memes because its all he has


    This is the perfect example of not being able to stay on topic because you can't figure out anything else to post to support your own OP.

    If anyone should apologize it should be you for posting so much off topic garbage to run from your own OP.
     
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    Yes it does. It proves that he is a shameful opportunistic self-promoting liar who gladly lies his ass off to make money. Even you don't deny that he lied his ass off and got caught in public hearing.
    My priorities are wondrously ordered and forward facing.
    Are you flamebaiting?
    Obama promoted a book claiming to be born in Kenya. Trump believed him. I do not. I think Obama was lying in his book promotion, and that he was born in Hawaii.

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    Obama's false claim in a book promotion.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAH! In desperation you managed to drag Trump in yet ANOTHER topic. There are thousands of Trump topics, find an appropriate one, and post your Trumpism there.
    The other choices were Hillary and Grandpa Felony Fingers Biden. Of course I voted for Trump over them.
    Biden was running a international bribery business and there is abundant proof of that.
    Grandpa Felony Fingers raped a girl who reported to him.
    I simply and accurately pointed out that your star witness, who was supposed to be the "smoking gun" is now a pile of smoldering lying ash, exposed and humiliated before a national audience. Naturally I assumed that you would appreciate being informed of this as you were still promoting this lying clown as "credible". You're welcome. I'm a little shocked at your lack of appreciation,
    I believe the Court Transcript.
    I believe the audio of what the Chief Justice Rehnquist actually said, that I heard with my own ears, and it is perfectly proper and reasonable that I should do so. What makes no sense is that you want to dismiss them both simply because Jim Jordan called our attention to it.

    I'm deeply concerned about the cult like adherence to authority that I see in some as it seals them off from allowing real world evidence disconfirm a false belief. Abusers, totalitarians and other systematic rights violators work to seal off the foolish instructing them to listen only to them and who they allow to be considered sources. The result is that "truth" is measured against the narrative rather than reality. Always remember that Truth is measured against the real world, that is always the final test.
    What this guy did was bald-faced, self-promoting, carefully embellished, lying. It goes to his character. Jim Jordan did a masterful job of exposing this lying charlaton before the nation.
    Source your claim that Trump is named in an official document as an unindicted co conspirator or retract your claim.
    You sure seem a bit miffed that your big "advocate"'s integrity has been completely impeached by "Withering Cross" Jim!

    FBI Bigwig Quietly Steps Down Just Before New Congress Probes Begin.

    Clearly he would rather face a firing squad than Jim Jordan in cross examination.

    Great Work Jim!

    I'd say that we now have overwhelming evidence that "Withering Cross" Jim Jordan should be the AG in the DeSantis Administration.

    Mr. Jordan, your grateful nation is calling you to higher service. You must say yes.
     
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    Hook, line, sinker. You have no credibility having cited this. How does it feel to have been this duped?
     
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    OH: Dems’ Star Witness In SCOTUS Hearing Deemed ‘Not Credible’ By SCOTUS.

    “The Rev. Robert Schenck will testify during the House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Thursday regarding his allegations that Supreme Court Justice Alito leaked court opinions in 2014 despite the Supreme Court in 1996 deeming Schenck ‘not entirely credible.'”

    It's well-known that “not entirely credible” is SCOTUS speak for “full of it.”

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    In 1996 SCOTUS found this Schenck clown to be, shall we say, 'less than forthcoming'.

    The Court found the Schenck brother's claims of why they were at the clinic to be "not credible."

    But wait, there's more!

    In order to confuse the witness against one of the lying Schenck brothers, 'they had switched clothes to mislead the witnesses regarding Paul Schenck’s identity. When claimed they could not recall changing clothes, the Court stated that it believed “the Schencks’ inability to recollect the incident to be totally incredible.”'

    Yeah, they are practiced liars who are skilled at avoiding perjury charges. This lying clown broke out the "I don't remember" card under Jim Jordan's withering cross involving yet another bald-faced lie by the "reverend".

    But wait, it gets better!

    The Lying Grifter 'Reverend' 'Schenck fundraised donations based on the idea that he could influence the bench to overturn Roe, despite Schenck later admitting that he was only ever able to reach Justices Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and Alito, who were already firmly pro-life, according to the Times report.'

    Seriously, how could you fall for this guy. It never entered your mind to enter his name into a search bar before trying to make him the Dems star witness?

    '“[Y]ou have Robert Schenck, who is not a reliable narrator of the truth, as evidenced by his own admission that he is a self-confessed liar of consequential lies, I think he says on his blog, and that other federal courts have found him to be a liar,” he explained.'

    '“In my 64-plus years, I’ve not only believed a fair number of consequential lies, I’ve promulgated them,” Schenck wrote on the blog.'

    'Schenck reverend’s claims have been denied by the two other individuals involved in the supposed leak.'

    I don't think I would believe this liar over the other folks if they have no proven history of lying like this "reverend" does.

    It sure is a bummer to see your star witness get blown out of the water like that by "Withering Cross" Jordan.
     
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    Is this the "Reverend" Schenk that was exposed as a liar? Will there be consequences for him lying under oath?
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    I expected the mods to delete my post, but I will restate it.

    You voted for Trump who, before he became president, rode to the White House on the back of the Lie that Obama was born in Kenya.

    But, you voted for him anyway. So, why would you care if Schenk didn't provide an accurate quote?

    Schenk's quote wasn't accurate, he slightly altered the quote, even made a point of it, but that being said, but it's still not significant. People misquote all the time and it doesn't warrant how you are characterizing a man who had a change of heart on abortions, and this is a guy who was prominent in the anti-abortion movement, who protested in a very big way, got put in jail a number of times, probably did more for that movement than you ever did ( I'm guessing, but I suspect it's true) and now that this fellow, who has had a change of heart, and has published a book on it, and is giving lectures on it, is being called to testify to congress about it, you can't handle that fact. In terms of fairness, your characterization really isn't on par with the sin. WE all misquote, every one has told a fib, in their lives, and this doesn't rise above 'fib' given that it's not significant, and IT ISN'T. Jordan, himself, is one of the least credible persons in the Republican caucus given he has no integrity whatsoever given his being a sex predator apologist, he has no leg to stand on, either.

    You can pound sand forever and smear the reverend all you want, but it won't change the reality that it's not significant. No reasonable person would ever equate his misquote, even if intentional, with the magnitude of the smear you are hurling at him, it's clearly a partisan rant, nothing more. Oh, you will wiggle and squirm and continue with your diatribe, but it doesn't change the reality that you, nor Jordan, both do not have a leg to stand on.

    However,

    Paying $130k to a porn star Trump fornicated with just after his newlywed wife gave birth in order to keep her quiet , not tell the electorate who has a right to know this, is significant.

    Telling the electorate a major lie that his opponent, Barack Obama that he wasn't born in Kenya, is significant.

    But you voted for him, anyway. It doesn't matter why you voted for Trump, you did, and that's speaks for itself. There was another candidate who wasn't Hillary you could have voted for and didn't.

    Therefore, you do not have a leg to stand on, and thus your comment on Schenck is dismissed.

    You can bellyache until the proverbial cows find they way back home, you still won't have a leg to stand on.

    In fact, I don't think that you, as a credible debater, can ever recover from the fact that you voted for Trump, given who he is, given the felons he selects to associate with, given the neo nazis and white supremacists he invites to dinner and says things like 'there are veryfine people on both sides' (no, hitler sympathizers do not have a good side), and given the voluminous lies he spews just about every day. However, on any thread not having to do with witness or whistleblower not getting all the facts right, I will consider, on a case by case basis.
     
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    Repeating off topic comments doesn't cure their off-topicness.
    Oh Jeeze, you guys are truly helpless in your Trump Obsession. EVERY SINGLE TOPIC? My goodness. Free yourself.
    The audio he played was Chief Justice Rehnquist's own voice confirming that your "Advocate" is a shameless liar. Do you understand that reality is wholly unimpacted by the circumstance that "Withering Cross" Jordan is who pointed it out?

    Consider:
    1. A triangle has 3 sides even if an approved source states it has 4.
    2. A square has 4 sides, even if an unapproved source told you that.
    Truth is measured against reality, not source.
    The "Reverend" smeared himself with his bald-faced easily checked lies about what the Supreme Court said.
    Stormy Daniels ended up paying The Trumpster $300k, which is unusual, usually the politician pays the hooker.

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    And yet, here you are!
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    Now, go forth and do good today, sharing cheer and goodwill to all you greet, even though your "smoking gun" is a pile of smoldering ash, reduced to rubble by "Withering Cross" Jim!
     
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    So the moral of this entire post is, Trump did (X) so Democrats are allowed to lie and falsify information and nobody can call them out because Trump did it.
    Got it. lol
    This is the new generation of Liberal thinking.

    They can't argue on topic without B-B-B-But Trump because without their B-B-B-But Trump whining, they have no way to justify fake Democrat claims.
     
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    The argument is absurd. Just because he miquoted someone doesn't discredit his testimony. Everyone gets facts wrong, but this is not even a significant point.

    The right can't handle the fact that Schenk is testifying against Alito and that Schenck had a major change of heart on abortion and wrote a book on it.
     
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    Ooooooohhhh, So now he's been misquoted? :roflol:
    Schenk ADMITTED he lied under oath.
    But you feel free to make up anything you want.
    Problem is, you ain't sellin it here. lol
     
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    Actually, trump's base pay his attorney fees, he's been grifting them for years. And you voted for him

    A lousy misquote and you go into a hyperpartisan rant smearing a man's reputation and whose your main man? A guy who apologizes for a sex criminal Wonderful.

    And, to top it off, you voted for this guy:

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    You have no leg to stand on.

    Nice try, no Trumpy Bear for you

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    Its amazing Mods allow this poster to make a thread then only post off topic rants.
     
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    Every single topic becomes a Trump topic with you?
    He's a grown ass man. He smeared himself, "Withering Cross" Jim simply pointed out your clown's villany.
    Things don't seem to be going too well for the Woke Left.

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    Awhile back, I thought we were having a decent debate about ISL. But, on this, you have revealed who you really are.

    You're definitely not interested in a serious debate, given the sophomoric caliber of your rebuttals.

    There are those who have proved they are worthy of a diatribe.

    Jim Jordan is such a person.

    Trump is such a person.

    Giuliani is such a person.

    Bannon is such a person.

    But Schenk? His only 'sin' was a misquote and an insignificant one?

    clearly, you do not understand a concept called 'discernment'.

    No, go away, you are boring me with your pettiness, loaded language, weasel words, and sophomoric smears to someone who deserves the benefit of the doubt.

    But, if you can prove greater sins than the misquote, sans loaded language, weasel words, sophomoric smears, I'll listen.
     
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    And yet, here you are.
    He simply used a shameless liars own words, and physical evidence to show to that they are a shameless liar.
    I realize that this is very difficult for you, but, everything isn't about Trump.
    Now you are pettifogging again, the only one misquoted was the Chief Justice by your "advocate"
    Good! Perhaps you will learn as well!

    "Withering Cross" Jim leaves Dems big "smoking gun" in a smoldering ruin!

    Next!
     
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    You misuse use the word 'pettifogging', and, in fact, you never used it before I did, so you are clearly mocking me while misusing the term..

    Your treatment of Schenck is unwarranted. You can't descredit a man's life work for such an insignificant misquote.

    I can't have a debate with you because you fail to understand what is really a simple point..

    The concept is 'discernment' -- it appears to elude you. But, feel free to prove me wrong, it's just that you haven't, thus far.

    Simply put, I can't take you seriously.
     
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    The Republican congress is on a wild goose chase, and in the end, they will have egg on all their faces and a report that will easily be refuted.

    The 1/6 committee's report is based on Republicans testimony, documents, facts, etc about a former President who tried to subvert democracy.

    Jim Jordan is someone no one should fear, because he's an idiot. He probably was born an idiot, and will always be an idiot.

    How so? He's alway barking up the wrong tree, and that's what idiots do.

    What do idiots do? They fail to check their facts.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/promotional-booklet/
    Is this booklet evidence that Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya? Not even the site that published it made that claim, noting in a disclaimer that:


    The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself:

    You'd think someone running for President would be responsible enough to check their facts before 'believing him'.


     
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    And yet, here you are.
    Fake News, My sagacity is the stuff of legends.
     
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    He indeed was born.
    He certainly made short work of your "advocate".
    He came with transcripts and audio tapes.
    You aren't arguing that I'm wrong, you are explaining why I am right. It was Obama's publisher that first pushed the lie that Obama was born in Kenya. The next to pick it up was the Hillary Clinton campaign and then several others, I quickly checked the contemporaneous birth announcements and declared it false when it came up.

    Is there anyway in hell you can not divert yet another topic to Trump? My goodness, it's endless with some folks,
     
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    Laughable. This is about as credible as 51 "intel experts" claiming Hunter's laptop was Russian Disinformation... and her you are, pushing it still.... and this is you gagging on the sinker....
     
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    It's the "Twitter effect" ;)
     
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