AFGHANISTAN - GOING, GOING ... GONE!

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    You're post doesn't make sense, maybe to you, but that's it.
     
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    He did? Care to back that up?
     
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    That's easy. I don't think it's a "colossal failure". I don't think it's the best situation but it's far from a "colossal failure".
     
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    Ok, so he lost the election, that means everything is off the table? This is Biden's plan? You're just making things up now.
     
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    That's on I90 in South Dakota. Near Murdo I think.
     
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    No idea what you're talking about.
     
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    And Susan Rice is the voice of personal experience when it comes to incompetent national security disasters. :lol:
     
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    A quick Google search doesn't back up your post but, hey, Twitter, always a "reliable source".
    I'm thankful it isn't the Trump administration running it.
     
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    You mean, it's gonna get worse?

    G*d help us :hiding:
     
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    For the last 8 months, Biden was busy canceling Trump and all of his policies. Is Afghanistan one policy Biden could do nothing about?
     
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    I think you do.
     
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    It means HE makes the decisions. Yes unconditional retreat is HIS plan. Leaving the Americans behind is HIS plan. Leaving our allies and Afghan supporters behind is HIS plan.
     
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    By Biden's own words by the what he said would happen this is an utter disaster and that is from ALL sides.
     
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    He set the date no matter what.
     
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    A conditional one, Biden turned it into an unconditional one. That's not an agreement.
     
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    An Appeal to Authority like that is a logical fallacy. What I wrote is true. If you can't dispute it... we get it.
     
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    What were the conditions?
     
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    If you are so uninformed about the Trump conditional withdrawal I can't help you and you are not worth to try and discuss it with I have no time nor patience to get you up to speed on the matter.
     
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    Sure, he makes the decisions. "unconditional retreat"...that's not happening, so strike one. "Leaving Americans behind".....that's not happening, so strike two. Leaving our allies and Afghan supporters behind....that's not happening, so strike three. A trifecta of misinformation.....or outright ignorance.
     
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    No, not a clue.
     
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    Yes, I admitted that it's not going the way they thought but still, "colossal failure" isn't accurate......at all.
     
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    The agreement is on the Internet. I have a copy. But, that's OK...I didn't expect you to have it. It's brief...not many conditions...we'll withdraw and return 5,000 prisoners to you, you return 1,000 Afghan soldiers to us, plus don't shoot at us anymore. We won't shoot at you. You agree not to attack us, nor allow anyone else to attack us from Afghanistan and we'll totally withdraw by May 1, 2021. You can work out everything else with the current Afghan government. Nothing about the translators. Nothing about treatment of Afghan women. Biden accepted this agreement...just moving back the withdrawal date. Both Trump and Biden left the Afghans with the choice between a corrupt government or religious fanatics.

    I think we owed them more.
     
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    Wow hurry up and call every news organization in the world showing videos of Afghans begging to get on a plane. Also call the Dept of defense, and the sect of state because they all said they are working to get the Americans out that ofcourse the military left behind. Talk about in the dark..
     
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    Boy, you're really mixed up. It was Trump that reversed everything he could that Obama did and then took a victory lap for all his "accomplishments". Yes, he correctly canceled the worst of Trumps "policies" (and there is so much more to do) but he's also had a lot of success with his own policies.
    Two of Trumps great "accomplishment" were canceling our participation in two world policies against Iran and climate change. Both moves called monumentally stupid by the rest of the world mostly for the childish reasons behind them. Now you have Biden sticking to a "treaty" made by the previous administration and you hang him on a cross. Brilliant.
     
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    You cannot actually believe that.
     

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