Again !! - Gaza rocket hits Eshkol Council in Israel

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  1. JPRD

    JPRD New Member

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    There's one important qualifier in Arab-Israeli negotiations. In the arena of world politics, Israel is very dependant upon the USA for support, particularly in the UN. No nation stands as solidly with Israel than the US. It's that dependance that would ensure Israel's adherence to any agreement they signed with the Palestinians and/or Arab neighbors. You may not trust the Israelis. However, Israel would be virtually bound to adhere to any agreements they made, as long as the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors did likewise.
     
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    The Zionists had no qualms whatsoever about completely ignoring their responsibilities under the US of AIPAC-brokered Oslo Accords. Whatever ' deals ' are produced by the US of AIPAC/Zionists are simply punts. They are designed to stall for more time for the ethnic cleansers to go about their filthy business.
     
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    If Palestinian negotiatiators think as you do, the Israelis would be insane to compromise on anything. Perhaps it's best if Israel approaches the issue as you do. Israel should leave well enough alone, and tell the Palestinians and their supporters to pound sand!
     
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    The Israelis do NOT compromise on anything. That is the point. Camp Dave was a sham.
     
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    No, really theres something your missing. Basically because you underestimate Israel and zionism.

    Firstly you rest on the supposition that the US is an honest broker, thus you clearly dis-respect Israel and the zionist believers by not understanding and reading their history. Ill explain;

    Israel has been dependent on US political, financial and military support for well over 30 years. To build and maintain that it has created a political funding and support network for its cause throughout US politics that goes back to before the 1950s.

    This network has been so effective that only a few times in its history, when other large powers objected for example, has the US ever been able to tell Israel to not do something and make that stick. That would be the 1956 invasion, and the Camp David agreement, both times this was possible because on the other side a big power, like the Soviets, was able to make the US President do something he wouldnt otherwise do. For the most part otherwise the US does what Israel tells it to do and when it doesnt it is already persuaded to see things Israels way and look to no other source of opinion.

    Any peace agreement thus is liable to be undermined both by the fact that the US cannot deter Israel and that Israel cannot be deterred by any Palestinian military force. Moreover historically Israel has been able to frustrate negotiation after negotiation time after time and also to exclusively set the terms for any diplomatic moves that it makes.

    The Palestinians on the other hand can always be deterred by one most important factor - Israel.
     
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    Hamas is also one and Hizballa is another... This little girl must be walking around with a halo.
     
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    Yes indeed with your warped historical record...
    A country can be taken over when its population is decimated and forced to capitulate i.e. the Americas, Australia, Tibet etc.,.
    A country is recognized by its History and Archeology... The country of Israel is peppered with Jewish Archeological sites and the only Archeology the Arabs left is the droppings of their sheep and beasts of burden!
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Who dreamed 5 years ago that Syria will be in civil war ?
    Who dreamed 5 years ago that Presedent Mubarak will be in Jail ??
    Who dreamed 5 years ago that Gadaffi from Libya will be murdered like a dog ( Kalb ) ???
    You never know the future ... most chances are that Jordan will become Palestine and arabs will leave to be there... :peace:
     
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    Why would they leave to be there?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The same reason you will .
     
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    And what is that?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Why do you considor Your home to be Ramallah ? palestinan's mijority is in Jordan.
    Also please be more detailed regarding your new agenda.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    As a palestinian from Ramallah, what can you honestly tell us about the huge hatred between Ramallah's citizens and Gazans ??
     
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    Well now we agree that I wont and dont have to move to Jordan.

    There's no huge hatred, theres little reason for there to be either.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    We agree on one thing, You don't have to BUT you will move to Jordan. You palestinians will rule Jordan. Amman is a
    great city and suitable as the palestinian capitol.

    Now we agree there's hatred between Gazans and Ramallahs..
     
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    No Jerusalem is the capital, im never moving to jordan. Theres no hatred.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    How can a Muslim palestinian say that Jerusalem is his capitol ?
    Palestinians never in the history even lived in Jerusalem. You pray while your a-s-s towards the city... Your holy Quraan
    doesn't even mention the name Jerusalem even once ..
    Regarding hatred - lies. Ramallas HATE Gazans.
     
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    Palestinians have been in Jerusalem forever.

    No hate for Gazans, Ive no reason to.
     
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    Some of the behaviour on this thread has been unacceptable.

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