Against Progressive Pseudo-Religion

If we are to talk cosmology please reference the appropriate texts

 

No texts, just my opinion but it makes sense.

 

so true

"MAGA Evangelical Is STUNNED By The Word Of God"

 

Hmm.. so you purposefully avoided the actual point. Abortion is just another example of how progressives fail to understand the narrative, and force their version of the narrative on the world around them. In your mind, the protection of innocent life isn't necessary as long as it allows women to avoid being responsible for destructive or irresponsible behavior. Just another example of how progressives are working to undermine the value of women in our world. Make them objects for abuse, not mothers. You're making a fools argument. Pick one, are you taking the Yellen approach where women have an obligation to be productive little cogs in your world, or are you making the case that women are simply objects that men should be able to use without having to deal with the consequences of having children because of their debauchery?? I mean, look to the folks who populate your party. Men who abuse women. Having a legal way for those folks to be enabled seems to be the only consequence of value in your advocacy.

 

Hmm... thanks for the marketing. It tells us a lot about what you truly value.

 

yep, for sure, religious fanatics beliefs are not something I value....

believe whatever they want, just don't punish people that don't believe like them as they fear their God's response to them not believing

 

And yet you cannot recognize the existence of that very fanaticism in yourself. Typical.

 

Tell that to the secularist that are trying desperately to outlaw any beliefs but their own, note who the people who constantly scream about misinformation and how it needs to be outlawed and that the government should be allowed to censor people who disagree with it.

 

No apologies necessary, and I'm sorry I mistook you for someone who was capable of handling criticism. Are we done with the salutations now?

I implied no such thing. I criticized your claims that "religion explains everything, no need to think" and "Anti religion is only nonsense to believers" and then I went on to substantiate my criticisms. I also could have pointed out that your initial claim ""religion explains everything, no need to think" was insulting to religious people because it implied that either they don't have to think or they don't think, which is a rather rude suggestion on your own part.

Funny how we appear to be criticizing/complaining about the same things...

But it doesn't. One need look no further than all the different theological movements and sects within the Christian religion to see that's not the case, along with all the time, energy, thought, discourse, etc., that have been dedicated to finding the answers, knowledge and truth that religious people have been looking for.

I think it would be more accurate to say that religion offers people a framework or entry point to explore these things, and people are free to accept or reject that offer in full or in part.

I have no idea, but my first guess would be that you may have attacked them and/or their beliefs yourself (?).

All?

That's quite a claim.

What about Universalists and unorthodox/heterodox religion and beliefs?

Of course, they can't all be right, but does that make all of them wrong?

As for William, he was a libertarian theologian and logician, amongst other things, and judging from his Dialogus and the position he took during the Franciscan Poverty Controversy I suspect he would say it's up to the individual believer to determine what is right and what is wrong for themselves.

Interesting. That sounds more in line with the views of an Agnostic than an Atheist.

 

I do not want laws to force you or your children to say "in no God we Trust" - I want you to decide for yourself

you think gov remaining neutral and not picking a religion to push is anti-Christian - I say it's supporting the 1st and letting the people decide for themselves

 

I admit you're right about that, but it's been my experience with all but a few.

That's very well said.

I don't attack, I merely ask questions when they bring it up. It's my questions that get attacked. Often rudely. One of the nonsensical things that I hear from the many self-righteous Christians with whom I've conversed is that if I don't believe in God, I have no moral compass. That one happens a lot.

What makes all of them wrong, in my view, is that there is no proof to offer.

True. It's a fine line between the two. On the one hand, I can't bring myself to believe in any of the man-made deities, especially one that causes one to burn for eternity unless one is completely faithful. What a monstrous thing to tell children. On the other hand, I must admit the possibility that the big bang singularity was created by something. I just don't have any reason to believe it's a god.

 

Nah.. not at all. Our nation doesn't see religion. It isn't establishing one to say, for example, in God we trust. Should we not trust in God, and if not, whom should we trust in? Certainly not the rubes in the democratic party. So whom?

 

Of course they do. If they didn't think their to religion wasn't the one, it wouldn't be their religion.

Duh .

 

Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death

 

you are proving my point, you see no issue with "in God we Trust", but see a issue with "In no God we Trust" - I see an issue with both statements

 

which is fine, but our government should not be pushing the Middle Eastern version of Christianity or the American Version of Christianity (Mormonism)

 

He’s everyone’s God whether they acknowledge Him as such or not.

 

lol, you are free to believe that, just like many children believe Santa tis the reason for the Christmas season

 

I wasn't aware the government id that.

 

really, look at your money, said the pledge lately? seen the laws the right is trying to pass....

 

What laws?

 

Putting preachers in our public schools

but why not address the first two

If the gov made every student stand and say "in no God we Trust", I think you would get it

 

What law puts preachers in public schools?

 

But that is clearly not what is at play government since the 1950's has not been a neutral arbiter among many religious view points one of which is atheism rather it has tried to shove Christianity out of the public square to the greatest extent possible that may be many thing but neutral it isn't.

 

Iowa is passing such laws - some republicans are always trying to push religion on other peoples children