AGW Deniers: Grand conspiracy or everyone wrong

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  1. jc456

    jc456 New Member

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    why won't Mann merely publish his data? What's he hiding? you know that what it seems like since he won't. ahhh he rigged it, that's what he's afraid of someone finding out. That's why there is full disclosure in science for that very reason. Pull the wool protection.
     
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    then his data is invalid, means nothing to the promotion of GW, nothing. Either follow the rules or your tests are invalidated. Seems fair to me.
     
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    actually he spot on.

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    you should look up the definition of full disclosure then. Seems you have no idea what standards really are. what a waste of time to read your posts of garbage.

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    obviously not.
     
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    Are you suggesting that the NSF standards , which Mann and others have met, are not the gold standard of scientific disclosure? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about if you do.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are pleased with the flawed Mann Graph, you must not have studied it much if at all.

    It was a fine way to make minute temp changes seem gargantuan.
     
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    The gold standard is releasing all the data and how you got there so it can be duplicated. Evidently you don't even know what gold standard means.
     
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    As I have said repeatedly. Every science academy on the planet disagrees with you.
     
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    Guess the IPCC disagrees with you since they dropped it.
     
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    Please name the current scientists that are doing that complete with references. I will hold my breath....ready.......LOL. You have nothing.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They validate the graph?

    The numbers are probably correct.

    But the graph should not be to make a political point.

    So far, you have refused to explain to me why I should come to jesus over your posts.
     
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    Hold your breath? Great, then we won't have to listen to your goofy and ill-informed comments.

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    You mean come to the Goracle don't you?
     
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    And you have refused to explain why I should abandon jesus over your posts.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yesterday you and I chatted over what Governments ought do if AGW is real.

    Not warming mind you, since I believe this planet has a history of climate shifts that are easy to prove.

    I am talking hot. The crap you spew makes one think there is some sort of emergency.

    But when I point out things one does if there is an emergency, you defended inaction.

    Then you told me some countries had meetings such as in Paris and are handling the problem.

    So why should I have my hair on fire again?

    You make this seem such a huge deal as if a few posters more on your side and you whipped the problem.

    You have not alarmed me.

    But you sure tried.

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    Indeed. :roflol:
     
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    You seem to think there are two choices: Hair on fir emergency OR inaction.

    Do you even realize there is a third approach?
     
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    Thought you were holding your breath. Don't disappoint.
     
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    I just don't humor those who blame man for the temperatures.

    If you looked hard at charts, CO2 rise follows warming.

    Ergo it can't cause warming.

    A different approach is that methane is causing it.
     
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    Thank you for all your theories. But AGAIN the greatest scientific minds on the planet have looked at this and reached a different conclusion.
     
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    Still all you have is logical fallacy. Guess you can't learn.
     
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    I wonder if you have a comment to this.

    I have said all I can tell you.

    Have you also said all you can say?

    You are a believer in human causes.

    I believe in natural causes.

    Sums me up.

    I honestly don't wish to do this day after day.

    Do you?
     
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    Nor do I. The only difference between us is I am a believer in science. You have faith in one or two individuals.
     
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    I am studying the James Hansen paper "Global Temperature Change"

    He does not get far into his paper when he starts to back off from humans caused this.
    Rather than make definite statements, he waffles. Says probably quite a bit.

    If that is science, I pass.

    http://www.pnas.org/content/103/39/14288.full

     
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    I have posted science. In your case, I have waited on you for days.
     
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    All of science deals with probabilities. Even your doctor can only say if you smoke you probably will get cancer.....he can not guarantee it.
     
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    wow, you finally got there. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Yes I did. You don't know what you are talking about
     

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