"All you need to know about the Obama administration's Benghazi stonewall,"

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  1. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Back at the SMC, the Annex security team at Villa C used small arms fire and took defensive positions to respond to an apparent second phase attack, which lasted about 15 minutes and included small arms fire and at least three rocket - propelled grenades (RPGs) launched from outside the C3 gate.

    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf
     
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    From the start the Obama Administration LIED and refused to release information.

    They let out people die and offered zero help.... this is an American tragedy.
     
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    Panetta was firm throughout his testimony that there were no "undue delays" in decision making and there was no denial of support from Washington or from the military combatant commanders when the attack happened.

    "Quite the contrary: The safe evacuation of all U.S. government personnel from Benghazi 12 hours after the initial attack" and transfer to the Ramstein Air Base in Germany "was the result of exceptional U.S. government coordination."

    He said the U.S. military response helped save lives.
     
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    Panetta's testimony has been controverted by the people on the ground. There is nothing to support his testimony. All other testimony refutes his claims. You continue to believe Panetta over ALL other sources.

    There was fighting all over the place... as the security team went to the DO and as they left... at the annex it would flare up, and subside, and flair up, and subside, then the mortars were fired...

    They had been fighting all night. Stevens was MIA till just about dawn. Mortars hit at 5:15 am, you will remember Woods was on the roof on the 50 cal... fighting. Libyan military with heavy weapons showed up within the hour to evacuate them.


    Of course... all of this BS CT that everyone but Panetta is lying is just an attempt to distract from the point. Why, in such an insecure situation, days notice that the security team was hostile, with such unrest on the ground, on 9/11... why was the closest fighting force 13 hours away?


    Everything I have said is supported by reputable sources... it is not CT. All of your talking points come from discredited testimony from someone who needs to go to jail, who surprisingly retired after 6 months on the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing job as controversy began to flair over Benghazi.

    6 months... directly refuted testimony... ambassador in enemy hands for 5 hours.

    And there was nobody to send in, because our government did not arrange security for Benghazi... they just took it away.
     
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    Obama says stuff that sounds good { what the vast public wants and expects
    to hear } but which is also like a confessional.I think it's Worldnetdaily who
    had a psychologist explain and prove what Obama is up to.That Psychiatrist explained
    that Obama is actually confessing as to what he does and means.But he's
    putting it out as in code.That only certain insiders and some usual suspects know
    what Obama is pulling.It's rather snarky.Obama is in a way telling us what he
    wants to do.It's usually the opposite of what he says.He's says stuff that is positive
    and upbeat as if Now Americans can feel better,all the while grooming the message
    in his mind as to what he shouldn't do.When he speaks about how much he cares about
    the Middle Class what he actually means,is how much he cares to unravel their
    existence.Steal their American Pipe Dreams right out from under their nose,all
    the while promising them a better life.It's kind of sadistic.Plus there is NO middle class
    in Marxism.The first thing Marxists do is try and unravel and disassemble any
    Middle Class.First via Socialism then onto full blown Communism.
    Obama is merely practicing the means to his ends with his artfull dodger approach.
    That is why he ran around for 2 weeks pushing some Mohammad video as the
    direct cause of the Benghazi attack.he even mentions the video SIX times in his
    address to the United Nations.In a way he's actually telegraphing his true intend.
    To use code and doublespeak in order to gaslight the American people.
    To get them so off guard by his conflicting messages,the average Joe public
    won't know what to believe or expect.Obama sends different messages throughout the week.
    It's like a Used car salesman who uses a different story every day to sell the same
    jalopy.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They hung out waiting to fight, and did, the forces which came from the annex. They then attacked the annex... and staid there fighting for 8 hours.

    So... when there is someone there to fight... the forces are fighting. They are entrenched... shooting anything coming in or out of the complex.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...cial-offers-new-timeline-for-benghazi-attack/

    That is the PENTAGON'S time line.

    This is just at the DO. MOST of the fighting happened at the annex... I am just tired of doing this. These facts are known. Fighting went on all night at two locations and our ambassador was abducted.

    There was no one, and nothing to support our people... so nothing was done... except to tell tripoli forces they couldn't go.
     
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    Well, Panetta lied through his teeth, didn't he? And Clapper, and Mueller..... what a clown parade!

    Don't ever forget that this administration was still lying to us about Benghazi 21 days after Reuters had already published the entire set of facts from first hand eye witness accounts on the ground.

    We knew all about how the militants were laying in wait at that Annex compound, long before the rescue convoy arrived there.

    There are two (and only two) choices here: either a ) President Obama and his entire administration are engaged in a cover-up to this day, or b ) the whole lot of 'em are so horribly incompetent (and that would include our own CIA) that it took 'em 21 days and 7 sets of lies to get their story straight.

    Pick one. It has to be one or the other.

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    It's not a tragedy, it's a crime.
     
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    Do you not see the difference between attacks and the US GOVT LYING TO US ABOUT WHY/HOW THEY OCCURRED? Did a single one of those deaths involve the WH making a statement that was a complete and utter fabrication? Now ask yourself why that happened and remember the date this occurred and what was quickly approaching. If you see nothing wrong with that, you admit you have no issue with your leaders lying to you to fit thier agendas at the expense of our lives. Is that acceptable? If so, you probably are cool with 911 being an inside job. If we found out the Feds blew up the towers, would you just say, "eh, no big deal!!". Or, is the fact that since Obama is in office, you and people like you are so blinded by ideology, you don't give a ^$&*#* what they do to you or what they say?
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    The administration did not lie to us. You are just making stuff up to push your failed party politics. Embarrassing.

    So you were there?

    Dempsey said he stood by the conclusion of an independent review board, which concluded the "interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks, for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

    I'll pick the truth of the matter rather than play your partisan lying games.

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    Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey

    "The bottom line is this: That we were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault, which could have been brought to an end by a U.S. military response, very simply, although we had forces deployed to the region,"


    Apparently you are getting misinformation. Not surprising.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Interesting you say this since the two SEAL's that died were sent in from Tripoli.
     
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    So, you trust Obama, eh? It appears, Obama knew it was a terrorist attack before he did not know it was, and then he went to a fundraiser in las Vegas... so you trust Obama on this and you have the audacity to call my thought process irrational?

    Again, let me restate - you believe Obama when he said he knew it was a terrorist attack, and then he did not know. So, who's thought process is irrational? :roflol::roflol:
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I really don't care whether it was a terrorist attack or happened from a spontaneous protest over a video. Probably the least insignificant thing to care about. And based on reports they were getting from the intelligence community his statements were consistent with the information he was given.

    I'm glad that's your baseline for determining Obama's credibility!
     
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    They had two drones in the air. They could see. You think that took MONTHS to figure out? With people on the ground... 30 of them alive... watching it live... took months did it? This is the credibility you bring me.

    Your guy.

    "All available DoD resources"

    Tell me that one again.
     
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    Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

    Apparently they couldn't see until 70 minutes after the first attack and what they did see was nothing after that until some hours later when the team from Tripoli arrived and took couple mortars within 15 minutes of making it to the annex. Your conspiracy has way too many holes. Everything seems pretty consistent based on the reports.

    I'm glad you completely skipped over the next paragraph.

    Dempsey said he stood by the conclusion of an independent review board, which concluded the "interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks, for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."


    Looks like your conspiracy isn't going very far.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I notice you completely skipped the exchange all together.

    From the official Pentagon timeline

    So... you hear the mission is under attack... a few ex-SEALS go storm the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing castle.
    - Hicks
    - Hicks
    [video=youtube;raF9wfPxir8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raF9wfPxir8[/video]

    There was an attack beginning at 9:40. By 11:11 a drone was over the outpost, where annex team is routing the DO. This was a battle. Then a second wave is coming... they probably knew this BECAUSE OF THE (*)(*)(*)(*)ING DRONE... and there is a firefight on the way out. The drone has been there half an hour and all it has seen is battle, having started 3 hours ago. That is protracted. That alone.


    There's 5 more hours of that.

    Clearly bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
    Clearly.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Hicks was in Tripoli. How would he know more about the attack than others?
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where was (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Dempsy?

    Why his testimony matters is because he was in (*)(*)(*)(*)ing charge. He talked to everyone, and was part of the annex attacks. He was coordinating, directly involved with everything, and everyone. He was sending people into harms way. He was Chief of Mission. His story is EXACTLY in line with the Pentagon timeline. The pentagon timeline is enough to disprove your wishful thinking on its own...

    UAV over the mission at 11:11. 11:30 the ex-SEALS are under fire trying to leave.

    That is all you really need.
     
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    5:15 a.m. (11:15 p.m. ET): The U.S. Regional Security Office in Tripoli gets a phone call from an Arabic-speaking source who says a Westerner has been found in Benghazi and is perhaps at a hospital. It's believed to be Ambassador Stevens. Transfer to airport is arranged.

    At around the same time, the additional security team finds transportation from the airport under the escort of the Libyan Shield, another local militia, but decides to head to the annex after learning that Stevens was almost certainly dead. Just after their arrival, the annex takes mortar fire, sustaining three direct hits. The precision of the attacks indicates a level of sophistication and coordination.

    Former U.S. Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty are killed in the mortar assault, which lasts just 11 minutes before dissipating; a DS agent and annex security member are severely wounded.

    After the mortar attack, about 30 Americans evacuate the annex and head to the airport, with the assistance of the Libyan security convoy.

    Ambassador Stevens is confirmed dead later that morning, as Americans see his body at the airport



    The ex-SEALs were there for less than 20 minutes.
     
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    So, Obama knew it was a terrorist attack before he knew it was not? WTF is it with this White House clown that people do not care weither he's lying on not? Does he make you feel good, because he's the first black affirmative action president? He clearly lied, and you're saying you do not care about him lying... is it obamaphone? :)
     
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    He clearly didn't lie, unless you are blaming our intelligence and military agencies for lying. That's a pretty bold claim. You have no evidence, you have no motive, I simply don't care whether they thought it was because of a planned terrorist attack or a spontaneous terrorist attack, lol. One of the more insignificant differences I know of in my life. I care more about who wins America's Got Talent than I do about whether the intelligence agencies thought an attack on an embassy in Benghazi was a spontaneous attack or a planned attack. Lol!! I'm glad you all of a sudden care so much about Benghazi... you probably never have even heard of the place until your favorite media personalities told you to care about it.
     
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    No. They were part of the 6 man team who went after Stevens, and were back at the Annex when the Tripoli team arrived.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/africa/libya-consulate-attack/index.html

    Regardless... any time anyone came or went they were fired on... under surveillance as of 11:11. The barrage that hit was one of several waves of attacks, as I have clearly shown.

    Let me ask you a question...

    Why is it I can get a commercial flight from Frankfurt to Tripoli in less than three hours... but the DoD cannot get resources from Ramstein in less than 13 hours?
    [​IMG]
    Ramstein is to the west of Heidleberg.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing riddle me that.
    They got... they got nothin?

    No... no DoD assets to assign?

    On 9/11... nobody... nobody is ready to jump into the (*)(*)(*)(*)?

    3.5 hours from London...
    [​IMG]
    http://info.flightmapper.net/flight/British_Airways_BA_898
     
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    More LIES.

    The ADMINISTRATION had the changed the report SO FULL OF LIES, that Gen. Petraus REFUSED OT SIGN OFF ON IT= "exposure of affair= resignation" shortly afterward. The overt CORRUPTION of the administration is INDEFENSIBLE, except for the "see what their TOLD TO SEE" Obamapologists, that is.
     
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    Great Post!

    Hicks is 100% solid. Barack Obama let our people get murdered, because to save them would admit he had being lying to the nation all along about "Alqueda is on the run and destroyed".

    Hillary Clinton failed to stand up for our people.... they let our people die and then they lied to the U.S. people about it.

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    Fact: There is a team of U.S. operators in the region that are automatically dispersed to scenes like Benghazi if an attack happens. These men geared up, waited, and the order never came..... ever.

    The Navy SEALS fought for their lives for 8 hours saving 30 Americans before they finally fell. 8 hours! What if they fought for 12 hours? Would help finally have been ordered by Barack Obama? How about 16 hours? When was Barack Obama going to send these heroes help?

    This is an extreme lack of leadership. Our people were left to be murdered by terrorists because it would "look bad" for the White House to acknowledge it was a terrorist attack that close to an election. So, they not only denied these heroes any hope of survival, but then they lied to everyone about it. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are not fit for office in any way shape or form. That is what we get for putting a man and a women in power that have ZERO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE... NONE. We made a person with no leadership experience the President of the United State of America. That is pathetic... that is "cult of personality" in the extreme.
     
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    And we STILL DO NOT KNOW: WHO, EXACTLY, REFUSED TO AUTHORIZE their DEPLOYMENT???
     
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    Dempsey said he stood by the conclusion of an independent review board, which concluded the "interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks, for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."


    Sorry bud, but I'll believe the official responses from the military rather than your monday morning quarterbacking like you are some military intelligence professional, lol.

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    We do know. They were told to go to the airport to help the evacuees coming in from Benghazi.
     

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