"All you need to know about the Obama administration's Benghazi stonewall,"

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Translation: " I'll go ahead and pretend that the PREPSOTEROUS "SPIN" from the Obamaliars is the 'truth' of the matter."

    Like: :" The attack was a 'spontaneous response' to an offensive video".

    It just came in MULTIPLE, COORDINATED WAVES of "spontaneity"....
     
  2. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    This is what conspiracy theorists do. They just dismiss anything they don't want to hear as lies. Sorry bud, but Benghazi is a done issue... no one that has any bit of common sense thinks there is a political conspiracy here.

    Sorry about your badass luck when it comes to these scandals. I thought you guys had this one!!

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    As opposed to your .com sites. I'll listen to the professionals. Sorry bud.
     
  3. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you stop talking about me?

    I have demonstrated that Dempsey is a liar, and the "interagency response" I am sure refers to the CIA sending their team to bail out the outpost. Show me the "independent review board" findings.
     
  4. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your response is propaganda talking points for willing idiots to consume and repeat.

    They sent NO HELP after 8 hours... what if the two SEALS held out for another 8 hours? When would this help have come? Who would have ordered it? A sleeping Barack Obama?

    Why is it that 1/2 a dozen U.S. Assets are within 2-3 hours of the site, yet none responded? Your ridiculous propaganda does not stand up against simple math. Ramstein is 3 hours away... your point is pure idiocy.
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, never been to Benghazi or Tripoli for that matter, but since you've asked, been to 120 or so countries, some of them you've probably never even heard of. And yes, Obama lied and yes, we have the evidence; as for the motive, it stares clearly into everyone's faces - elections :)
     
  6. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    The one thing we now have evidence of is that you lie.
     
  7. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    "This was, pure and simple, in the absence, as I said -- of any kind of advance warning -- a problem of distance and time," Panetta said.

    The quickest response option available was a Tripoli-based security team, he said.

    Within hours, Panetta said, that six-person team, including two U.S. military personnel, chartered a plane and flew to Benghazi.



    Apparently the defense department does not listen to your armchair military advice. Keep trying though, it's amusing to watch.

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    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf
     
  8. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton got the 3 A.M. call... they hung up on our people and let them get murdered.


    Those pesky Americans would have got in the way of Barack Obama getting elected... and that will never happen on Barack's watch!
     
  9. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    All four Americans who died, died before 11:30pm. You can't even get your lies right. Embarrassing.
     
  10. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were murdered while Barack Obama slept.... you can't get your lies straight.
     
  11. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh, ok. I'll take your word for it. You seem like such a credible person.
     
  12. birddog

    birddog New Member

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    Some of the libs around here must be paid by Obama! The truth can be known by nearly everyone, and they still deny it!
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *shrug There are people who travel extensively, and I'm one of them, lad - what of it? Do not tempt to to prove it.

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    The have to deny it; otherwise they may be forced to give back obamaphones.
     
  14. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I do not have an atom in my body that cares about your travels. I was referring to you lying about Obama lying and having evidence of it.
     
  15. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is there'n evidence, Obama was awake when these people died? pictures of him in the situation, room, perhaps? :)
     
  16. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Who cares if there is or isn't. He was in the room for the Osama thing and you guys all complained it was just a photo-op and he really has nothing to do with it. Now you are complaining there is no photo and everything is his fault. He doesn't have to carry around a video camera to satisfy your guys sick and twisted partisan needs.
     
  17. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But of course you do - you were the one who suggested I've never heard of Benghazi...
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    That has nothing to do with your travels.
     
  19. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No photo, no proof or, rather the proof he was asleep. As for Osama thing, of course it was a photo-op - everyone knows, White House speechwriter made gutsy decision.
     
  20. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, you guys aren't going to like him regardless of what he does. Why even care?
     
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    Thank you... that was a very good link. It backs up everything I said... save the evaluation that
    So... they were unable to prove that there was willful misconduct, or willful ignorance... the State Dept leadership was simply completely incompetent.

    Of course this was back in December... before all of the whistleblower stuff... and... the current investigation. The FBI was just getting in there at this point. This is why the hearings are important.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    This just goes to prove they aren't hiding anything. There is no political conspiracy to let people die. People make mistakes all the time. People die all the time because of these mistakes. You go through the investigations, the root cause analysis and figure out ways to prevent it in the future. And there is no "whistleblower" information. What Hicks said is meaningless. They don't have to answer to Hicks, they made the decision to have his group go to the airport instead of to Benghazi. They don't need to listen to Hicks opinion on what he thinks they should of done.
     
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    Your opinions are noted.
     
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    All I'm saying is I believe our military and intelligence agencies are the greatest in the world. They are able to make mistakes in hindsight. But while you have 8 months to piece together the events and make up the scenario that you want to prove, they have to make decisions in real time. And everything I have read they made those decisions, they made them like they make any other military decisions. Obviously something went wrong with four dead, but that does not mean that their has to be a trial in to who made the mistakes. The investigation is very detailed in to every mistake they made. They made plenty of them. What hasn't been found is that any of these decisions were made for political reasons or for any reason other than trying to safely and securely evacuate Americans out of Benghazi.
     
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    What help? The only assets on hand to assist were two ex-SEALs and an AC-130. Did you expect someone to order the AC-130 to start hammering the consulate with artillery rounds that can kill people at out to a little over 1300 feet with no ground-side spotting assistance?
     

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