Yes, the point is intent. Like, do American troops intentionally murder innocent Iraqi citizens over there? For the most part, no we do not. Do the insurgents intentionally murder innocent Iraqi civilians in order to achieve their objective, which is to intentionally murder our troops? They have a track record of doing so. These liberal *******s can't see the forest through the trees.
So what's your excuse then? I call them as I see them. Now, as for the "motherly"....lol. Last week someone accused me of being a liberal. Oh my. There goes that theory.
I don't have no problem with you calling them, as long as, you call them both ways and I don't see that happening too often.
I feel honored that you pay so close attention to me. But lets talk soldiers. Do they not deserve the benefit of the doubt?
The amount of indirect fire (rockets, mortars, and IRAMs) that my base has received would disagree slightly.
Ya, are you out there dodging EFPs, platter charges, deep buried IEDs, wannabe Juba snipers, AQI, and Mahdi? Didn't think so. So you fobbits get a little indirect, at least you're getting time to think of war stories you can tell at home, while you're siting in your cute little bunkers.
American soldiers have done this sort of thing in every war in every place on earth. Peacetime or wartime. No harm done. And that one Iraq kid sure has a set of lungs. Damm if he was living in the USA, he would be groomed into an athlete.
Thank you for being there, and please do be safe. You are part of our wonderful volunteer military, while others only sit on their fanny and sling insults at you.
With this being my second tour yes, I've been out on the road in the 1151/1152s. Plus IDF is just as deadly as the EFPs, particularly those IRAMs if you knew anything about those. Plus, being on base didn't stop my neighbor from being cut in half and bleed out screaming in pain. That's not a morning I want to relive again. On my last deployment being on a base didn't stop a sniper from taking pop shots at me when trying to fix my antenna dish. I didn't particularly enjoy the IED that hit my convoy going back from Hawijah to Kirkuk. Being on a base didn't stop me from accidentally rousing a cobra and being chased. Nowadays though, there is much more IDF attacks than IED/EFP attacks. And for the whole "fobbit" comment, I'm assuming you served in the military and as some kind of combat MOS? Don't be mad at me you couldn't get a high enough ASVAB to get the good job. I do love you meat heads/shields and your caveman mentality.
Including reservists there are literally millions of people in the military. A lot of them are teenagers. Some of them are immature. Those kids didn't look like they were dying of thirst. I chalk the whole thing up to an ill advised prank.
Good Point, I also wonder how many of the people who are trying to defend these soldiers actions if they have ever served a day.
I was on your side until you threw that stupid comment in. Most of us that went Infantry went for a specific reason....there is no other job on earth that can challenge you as much or bring you closer to people. Why fix radios or trucks when you could do that in the civilain world for triple the pay? The ASVAB is a joke, myself and many other "meathead/shields" scored high enough to do any job in the military (which isn't saying too much), but went Infantry. Infantry is the quintessential military experience. I respect any support troops that do their jobs so long as they understand their role in the military. Just remember the next time you go to a bar, tell a chick you're in the military, and see her eyes light up it's because she's ignorant of the military and automatically thinks you're a ground pounder. I bet you don't tell her that you're 236938D Data Clerical Satellite Repair Technician Secretary. You probably just let her think your one of the guys outside the wire she sees on CNN everyday.
All I can say is that if 'taunting' kids with water is the worst thing our boys and girls have done to make the news, they are doing a (*)(*)(*)(*) fine job.
Anyone who's been to Iraq/Afghanistan and spent time on the ground see's this for what it is: A way to alleviate daily boredom. Iraqi kids are absolutely merciless when it comes to begging and nagging troops for things. The guys you see doing this have probably spent hours and hours fighting off hoards of children begging for everything under the sun. They've also surely spents hours and hours giving away food,water, and medical attention to the same kids. It's a war zone, it may seem uncouth too Americans living in suburban paradise, but Iraq isn't America.
I just don't like the disrespect I get from many ground pounders who think they are gods just because they go outside the wire. Being on the base didn't save those soldiers who died in the Mosul DFAC suicide bomber attack. Death is death, and service is service.
I don't think my question was why they do it, I asked how many of those defending these actions have ever served a day in the military.
I think everyone can agree with that, but we love our rivalries. If it wasn't for the Chair Force flying me to some (*)(*)(*)(*)ty places I wouldn't half the great stories to tell...
It's hard to live outside the wire in (*)(*)(*)(*)ty conditions fighting for your life day in and day out for the SAME EXACT PAY as guys living cleanly and safely in A/C cans, eating from the chow 4 times a day, and spending their freetime watching movies and surfing the web at the MWR. Especially when these same guys are so arrogant as to imply that the only reason said ground pounders are out there is because they're too dumb. In recent years getting an infantry MOS in the Marine Corps has required a wait of up to 1 year. That's how many people are fighting for those slots.
I was commenting more on which military people have a good understanding of this. Guys who fought in Korea probably wouldn't have much more insight into this than some 19 year old college kid living at home. They could perhaps empathize with the boredom and pranks though I suppose.
Anybody who has served in a combat theater would definitely have more insight than someone who hasn't. I am sometimes amazed at how some people who have never served a day in the military can basically tell others why and how a soldier acts or doesn't act.
Which is why wikileaks scares me. Putting raw combat footage into the hands of civilains who don't know what the hell they're looking at can be dangerous. War is a dirty business, people don't realize just how many gray areas exist. They expect everything to be black and white and don't understand the emotions or mindset of those making split second decisions.