Amos Yadlin + why bombing Damascus is important to Israel.

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I was asking a specific member if he had read it, in the context of an exchange.

I did not ask you if you had read it.

And I have never heard of your 'far more qualified joo '...

 

I did though. Anyone can find out for themselves that Israel used WP as a chemical weapon against a civilian population.

I am not going to argue the fact with Jew biased deniers though.

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Yes I do.

And they are.

They don't like their world image? They need to change their ways.

Simple.

 

Unless you can quote me saying that "people are now nuclear infrastructure", then you are trolling.

 

Supporting strikes against military facilities is not murder of Jews or non Jews Jack, it is strikes against facilities.

Here, allow me to explain with simple visual aids;

Military Target



Civilian Target



See the difference? If you wish, please feel free to print out these pictures so as not to confuse you in the future.

Sorry Jack, I suppose that you are new here and don't understand how this works. It is a discussion forum and, if one posts something others may or may not answer or engage you. If this is not to your liking then make a blog and switch the 'Allow Replies' option to 'No.'

Not surprising as you seem to only swim in the poo tanks of those who's opinions you agree with.

 

And you think that strikes = no deaths.

What a guy.

 

I only go by what you say Jack and you posted that Pipes said that by attacking Iran's nuclear infrastructure this meant that civilians were being murdered.

You equated;

" encouraging force against the Iranian nuclear infrastructure."

as;

"murdering people in Iran"

Summed up quite eloquently in post #225.

 

He's sold on the bullcrap propaganda relating to euphemisms such as "strategic bombing", "surgical strikes" and the like.

 

Certainly not murder Jack. Accidental, unexpected, unfortunate but certainly not deliberate, premeditated or certain at all. You must be using the fuzzy dictionary to come up with all the sensationalist rants you do.

And let's get back to the subject for a moment, the action that occurred in Syria that precipitated this discussion was the DELIBERATE MURDER of civilians and here you are, calling those who are attempting to stop it as being guilty of worse.

 

Unless somebody is going to tell me that new apparment complexes for orphans are bieng consructed inside nuclear cetneterfuges we can surmise that they are not for housing civilian innocnents.

Have you the blueprints for the secret Iranian nuclear facilities to show where the welfare offices are located, the schools and hospitals are? Does Iran have the space considerations where the warheads are going to be stored next to the crayons and teddy bears?

 

I'm afraid that doesn't work because it is a misnomer. Dropping bombs on high density populated civilian areas inevitably results in the deaths of civilians irrespective of stated intentions.

 

Is that where the bombs are being made, stored, put together or uranium enhanced?

Please, tell us where these facilities are so I can see for myself,

 

That's based on the false assumption that so-called targeted bombs without exception hit their alleged targets. History has shown they do not.

 

Pipes is a typical arrogant Jewish warmonger, beating the drum for non Jews to bomb the lands of other non Jews.

If you cannot see that by doing this you then inevitablely take human life, then you are probably the sort of person that thinks maimed kids at Operation Cast Lead were 'collateral damage'.

 

You would have a point if strategic targets were strategically hit 100 per cent of the time and that such targets were 100 per cent of the time located in areas isolated from civilian areas. Often bombs not only miss their intended targets, but also miss the country or countries concerned.

 

Do you have any proof who did this, and what the real story behind it is?

AIPAC and the Rabbi's that all urged for the US to strike Syria must think they have.

So.

Where is it?

 

and;

So then it would be accidental rather than deliberate as the target they would be aiming for is the facilities themselves. Is that where the facilities that are enriching uranium that the IAEA is not permitted to inspect are? Do you have a link and, is this the proposed target?

 

I think that the regime of both Iran and Syria have taken far more lives of their own people already and, deliberately I might add without even having WMDs enter the mix so that if they are attacked it really can't do any worse than they do on their own day to day administrative murdering.

 

Really?

When precisely?

Give me dates, number, names, and cause of death.

 

I'm talking in the general sense arguing against the notion that so-called precision bombing is ever casualty free. It's not. Given that casualties are an inevitable consequence of such bombing, the question of intentionality is a misnomer.

 

Golly Jack, I'm more than happy to help you become as well informed as I am but you should use a bit of common courtesy is in order like using the word 'please' or 'could you be so kind' rather than barking out orders when you lack, but desire the information another possess.

Now please, try this again with a bit of non sarcastic civility and I shall provide all that you have above ordered and demanded.

 

You have to understand that Putin is playing to a very Nationalist crowd that is his base back home in Russia.

Putin...in an attempt to justify his changing of Russian Law to allow him to stay in power year in and year out must make his base feel that he is somehow helping to regrow the former glory of the Soviet Union.

Russia has very little influence anymore in comparison to the U.S., E.U., or China and when his base see's Putin standing against a Hyperpower....Russia and China are now calling the U.S. a Hyperpower as I guess they now think the word Superpower no longer cuts it....Putin's base applauds Putin's defiant actions.

Thing is if Putin stood with all the other nations as far as Syria....this would already be over.

AboveAlpha

 

I agree, but there is absolutely a difference between intentional and unintentional. Much like deliberate and accidental.

 

Of course that's true. However, it's always a question as to whether the ends can ever justify the means? It's a question of ethics which as far as contemporary international relations predicated on the concept of realpolitik and power is concerned, is regarded as an irrelevance in the corridors of the those who hold on to the reins of government decision-making. The basic understanding of human morality on the one hand, and the policies adopted by people who desire regime change predicated on the flawed concept underpinning humanitarian interventionism, on the other, are at odds with one another. That's why people like me who are opposed to precision bombing that will inevitably result in real flesh and blood human beings being blown to bits undertaken on the basis of false propaganda and lies, regard this kind of decision-making as the work of psychopaths. That's what differentiates them from me.

 

Shocking stuff.

Imagine playing to your own people.

Whatever next.

 

Putin is no wallflower.

He is a former KGB Chief and is responsible for the Radiation Poisoning Deaths of many Anti-Putin Activists.

Glorifying Putin is like saying...Hey...Small Pox wasn't so bad.

AboveAlpha