Amos Yadlin + why bombing Damascus is important to Israel.

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  1. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    But you havent.

    There is hope.

    I agree with your logic on the matter. Scary aint it.
    what most are not observing is that to screw with Russia, is to screw with china
     
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    In that case, using your logic, the US would have attacked already on behalf of Israel. But then again, as logically it would seem to be more in Israel's interests to stick with the devil they know in maintaining a relatively stabilized Syria under Assad, as opposed to reining in a destabilized Syria controlled by batcrap crazy rebels with their hands on chemical weapons, who knows?
     
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    not

    if obama spoke on behalf of americans, there would have been no threat of war.

    Threats are an azzpac method of diplomacy.

    It didnt happen did it.

    Im happy

    How about you?
    I want oppression stopped and israel is the reason why half the world hates america. "WE the people' are defending and supporting the most horrid creation of a country that has been oppressing human beings for almost a century

    Then the sobs are still building when 'we the people' said STOP.
    Any human life that supports oppression, is not worth the waste of oxygen. i could care less which 'who' the person is.

    I already know that when ww3 kicks off, the majority of the dead will be not be an actual part of the war machine. But notice how many just on this site, that are defending bigots and the oppression and could care less about human beings and sustain their position just to hold pride.

    i dont want war. I never have and why I was on the line, working the US leadership with MY comments, personally. How many politicians did you contact to try and stop the war?
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    Well, I guess you must have missed the collective drool to do so, until it just so happened that Putin seemed to pull out his chess piece, out of the blue?

    Russia are not some tiny pissant state that you can take lightly.

    They are a major player. With all of that said, it is not over yet, is it? You talk like we're done. On the contrary. What Russia did was ... a nuisance. A delaying mechanism.

    If anything it will make Syria easier to attack.

    As Iraq and Libya both found out, when they gave up their CW.
     
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    Of course Putin pulled the rug from under Obama's feet. Where have you been? Or could it be yet another conspiracy undertaken by the all-powerful Jews? Ah, yes, commies are equated to Jews, so that'll explain it. Obama did not reflect the views of Americans which is why only 11 percent of them supported war and Obama was eager to attack. It took Putin to rein him in. That's just a logically deduced fact. You see how that works?. Am I happy that the warmongering Americans have been reined in by Putin - albeit for now at least? You bet. You clearly don't know me to ask such a dumb question. You don't want war except if it's innocent Israeli's that are blown to pieces. It was you who said you wanted Israel wiped off the map and now your attempting to cover your tracks. I don't want any innocent people to die for men in suits sitting in plush offices acting on the behest of the ruling class they represent.. You do just so long as they are Israeli's, preferably Jews. That's the difference.
     
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    Erm, yes I know.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    Take what I said in it's FULL context my man.
     
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    It's not like you to edit posts, Jack when you reply.
     
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    Oh I see, so whatever you have posted and misinterpreted in the past cannot be used to demonstrate the seeming contradiction of at first endorsing a particular report as gospel and then later as suits dismissing it as hasbara?

    I do not lie nor do I stoop to inartful obvious attempts at deflection.

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    I usually reserve that for those that start with a lie(or words I have never said).

    I try to trim it down to a kernel that does not begin by distorting my words, putting words into my mouth etc.

    That is usually NOT you btw, so I would ask you take what I said about Russia in it's full context, as nothing I said in the previous post was a lie.

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    You said..

    "waved the Goldstone report about ".


    And I told you I did not directly refer to it, let alone 'wave it around'.

    Stop making things up.
     
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    Not true. There have been many times when you have edited/cherry-picked words from the posts of others in order to distort meaning and intention. And I mean MANY times.You did it to me tonight, which is why I returned the favour.
     
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    It is true.

    Anyway, get back to something close to the topic please.

    Clue - it's not me.

    :roll:
     
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    I'm not a Jew lap-dog, sorry. You cherry-picked one of my posts tonight which is precisely why I returned the favour.
     
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    Again, pulling out terms that do not exist on this thread, aside from in your own mind.


    I am just going to ignore you now, until someone takes this back to something close to topic.
     
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    Allie....I don't think you quite understand the Geo-Political Economic Importance of the U.S. Economy.

    If the U.S. Economy were to collapse or even have a significant downturn....so would the rest of the entire worlds economy times 3.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Fantastic.
     
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    Though China is more dependent on a healthy US dollar and economy, than Russia seems to be, it has slowly, quietly and solidly been building good relationships and enterprises in the World which do not rely on a strong/stable dollar/USA and it still has the might and means to go into lock down so I would think that China if pushed poses the most danger and it is still friendly with North Korea, be it friends at arms length.

    All these Jihadis running around too mostly under the control of the US via Saudi but not all because there is a Saudi split too isn't there? Boom, it could go, the whole Oil caboodle and all. The New Dark Ages.......................... or is that the long term plan? Who knows with these mad people?

    I think the US ( I know the players are not simply the US but use it for simplicities sake ....dear old simplicity ) has just over played its hand due to a lack of imagination and an arrogance. I think it thought it just could carry on according to plan, that no one would say anything that couldn't be handled or ignored, business as usual .............. and I think that it is desperate.

    I've started looking into who owns the Fracking which is threatening our beautiful Downs ..................... lots of it is hidden, secretive and private. money.
     
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    This is rather informative article from The Independent. I would guess usual suspects - the rich elite and their influential mates from the energy sector.

    Revealed: Fracking industry bosses at heart of coalition
    Campaigners warn of potential conflicts of interest from energy-sector leaders advising on policy

    The coalition may be promoting the controversial practice of fracking for gas because senior figures from that industry sit in the heart of Government, campaigners have warned.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...try-bosses-at-heart-of-coalition-8707589.html

     
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    Exactly and this could just be the thing to push that button as well as cutting off Europes energy supplies ...................'expect everything' he said and he is right, we should if the USA doesn't back off.
     
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    There is no such thing as Quadriller, it is owned by two other 'partners' with 42% each and 12% for enployees and 4% private investers.

    I could link link link but you can find 'em too, through :)

    http://www.cuadrillaresources.com/about-us/


    http://www.lucas.com.au/




    http://www.riverstonellc.com/

    But who owns them I expect all paths lead back to Vanguard but that is just an educated hunch ;-)
     
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    I personally think Bashar Assad is dishonest with his dealing with Putin and Obama.
    Israel intercepted some missiles on their way to Hezbollah, I am sure some arrived in Lebanon and will not be accounted for... Using these delivered missiles to Lebanon against Israel will trigger a new regional conflict that I interpret as a new killing field... Israel will not suffer losing its own citizens to a gas attack by Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah and probably retaliate in kind. Read on

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/syrian-rebel-chief-claims-assad-gave-hezbollah-nerve-gas/
     
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    I watched kerry make a fool of himself and bring up a solution to the media.

    Putin was just given the opportunity with the idea by the 'liar'. Karma is weird aint it
    i dont do conspiracy.
    Are you stoned?
    Obama aint the enemy
    good. Stop there

    I hate israel for the oppression of human beings

    it wasnt my idea

    and i have nothing to do with them hanging themselves

    But Oh yea, it would be far better to wake up in the morning and find out that there is no more israel........

    ie... perhaps go there and hold a flag, 'im innocent' .................. ha the ffff ha

    no one wants innocents to perish

    or for queers with curlers in there hair

    like who

    that is a lie

    by a liar

    "jews' would not be there at this point. The zionist pukes are who i hate.

    ie.... Anyone that supports israel and the pursuit of the mount are the bad guys...... i dont care what religious belief you like.


     
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    look whos talking. You claimed that i want innocents and 'jews' to be perish. That is a stoned cold lie and the misleading of truth

    by YOU
     
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    china is wal mart now
    US technology, production know how and with almost 5 times the US population; china is the world power to pay attention too.

    How many are aware of the 'toy story' of china, in which a chinese company was making toys for the US market and didnt sustain the lead based paint guidelines as held in the USA? Do you realize that the president of that company hung himself, for harming his country and company based on errors that he could have circumvented?

    To me, that is personal responsibility. What is unique is a 'rich' man having that kind of integrity... In the US we have Donald Trump, that BK'd twice and people still pay to learn his methodology.

    Imagine 1.4 billion, with personal responsibility; That's what make china so powerful.
     
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    That gives mere 'bad guys' a bad name. Demons would be more suitable. Add to 'support', I would include those who give any legitimacy to, be an apologist for, or attempt to downplay the criminal Zionist entity, and of course, anyone that tries to covet IOF reservists into a social meeting, while on a holiday.

    Not saying anyone here has even tried to covet the friendship of IOF reservists while on holiday, just making the point.

    :wink:
     

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